I remember it well
Pete
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From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
To: CB&Q Group <cbq@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Dec 5, 2011 8:27 pm
Subject: RE: [CBQ] further question about assignments of #9903
Yeah, that's true, Pete -- and it was on track that would have disgraced the worst industrial siding you ever saw.
Hol
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From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:09:34 -0500
Subject: Re: [CBQ] further question about assignments of #9903
I really wouldn't term what they did with 9903 at Midwest Threshers a static "display"...I saw it there about 1972 shoved off to one side and totally trashed inside. I don't think it was "officially" open, but you could climb inside which I recall doing.
Pete
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From: HOL WAGNER < holpennywagner@msn.com>
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Sent: Mon, Dec 5, 2011 3:24 pm
Subject: RE: [CBQ] further question about assignments of #9903
No, it was not operated by the new owners but was on static display on the ground of the Midwest Old Threshers Association at Mt. Pleasant, Iowa.
Hol
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From: d.cameron@sympatico.ca
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 15:50:35 -0500
Subject: Re: [CBQ] further question about assignments of #9903
I've got #9903 being pulled from service on April 27, 1958. That would fit the sale dates. Was it run by the private owners between 1958 and 1963?
Duncan
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Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 11:46 AM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] further question about assignments of #9903
May of 1963 - Retired from service - stored at West Burlington -- are you sure about this date?
The entries following show purchases of the equipment by private parties in 1960 and 1962.
--- On Thu, 12/1/11, Dave Lotz <Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: Dave Lotz <Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [CBQ] further question about assignments of #9903
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2011, 2:34 PM
Here's the MTZ Service Record I have for the 9903 - MTZ.
Dave Lotz
Pooler, GA
- October 8, 1935 - MTZ leaves the Budd Company plant - Philadelphia to New York via the PRR, the to Bethlehem, PA via the Lehigh Valley RR
- October 9 - On display in Wlkes-Barr, PA and Ithaca, NY
- October 10 - On display in Erie, PA
- October 11 - Moved over NYC to Chicago
- October 12 - MTZ made its appearance on Burlington rails in Chicago
- October 13 - Test run from Chicago to the Twin Cities and back - 882 miles in 12 hours
- October 14 - MTZ was shortened by crews at West Burlington by removing the baggage car to prepare it for the speed trials planned in conjunction with the Republican Valley Jubilee at McCook, Nebraska.
- October 22 - Reaching Creston in mid-afternoon, A Western tour of Burlington Railroad directors and officers (see note 1), other guests, (see note 2) as well as a bevy of press representatives transferred from a steam-powered train to the Mark Twain Zephyr
- October 23rd - Speed trials where the 9903 reached a maximum speed of 122 m.p.h. for a distance of three miles between Edison & Oxford, NE
- MTZ returned to W. Burlington to reconnect the baggage car
- October 25th - Christening of the the new Mark Twain Zephyr in Hannabal, MO.
- October 27th - The first regular service trip of the Mark Twain was made from Hannibal to St. Louis
- October 28th - The normal STL-Burlington-STL schedule began at St. Louis (Trains 42&43)
- May 31, 1936 - Reassigned the MTZ and the 9900 to be the Advanced Denver Zephyrs - Chicago - Denver (Trains 1&10)
- November 8, 1936 - Removed from Advanced Zephyr when new DZ inaugurated and began Chicago to Twin Cities service (Trains 22&23)
- December 18, 1936 - Returned to its intended route out of St. Louis to Burlington (Trains 42&43) after new TCZ trainsets begin service
- September of 1938 - Assigned with 9902 to the St. Louis to Kansas City route of the Ozark State Zephyr (Trains 32&33)
- March 1942 - St. Louis to Burlington (Trains 42&43)
- January of 1953 - Assigned to service with the 9900 between Galesburg, Illinois and St. Joseph, Missouri, via Quincy (Trains 3&4)
- May of 1957 - St. Louis to Burlington (Trains 42&43)
- May of 1963 - Retired from service - stored at West Burlington
- June of 1960 - Purchased by Mr. Frank Dashner of Glenwood, Iowa, but the train remained at West Burlington
- June of 1962 - Acquired by Ernie Hays for $6,500 and placed on exhibit at the Midwest Old Thresher Association grounds in Mt. Pleasant, Iowa
- 1972 - Purchased by Alex Barkett of the Building Leasing Corporation, and moved to Kansas City
- September of 1987 - Train was moved to the Mid America Car Corporation
- 1984 - Dave Stimson a player for the Kansas City Chiefs purchased the equipment
- 1987 - Train was sold to John C. Lowe and was moved to the Joliet area
- 2008 - Train was sold to Ben Butterworth and moved to Mid-America Railcar in Madison, IL
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