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Re: [CBQ] Re: Steam Generators on GPs/SDs

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Steam Generators on GPs/SDs
From: Robert munshower <bearmtnbob@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:09:09 -0700 (PDT)
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more steam generator trivia, one way to get them to fire up when they 
absolutely refused to start was to throw a couple of lit fusees into the 
combustion chamber, about 1978 or 79 we did this to an Amtrak Motor and it went 
off with such a bang that about 60 years of accumulated soot was blown loose 
from nearly every horizontal surface in Denver Union Depot, the Amtrak people 
were busy for hours placating po'd passengers, the dry cleaning bills must have 
been horrendous, a dead pigeon fell onto a plate of nachos and cheese at the 
depot lunch counter, do not know if Amtrak paid for that meal. never found out 
if the big bang killed the pigeon or if it had succumbed prior to train time


From: William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 11:56 AM
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Steam Generators on GPs/SDs


  
Jack,

You are correct about the covers which were not part of the EMD application, 
but rather a RR added modification. I don't know about incidences on the Q, but 
the Duluth Missabe & Iron Range had two SD-9s equipped with steam generators 
that were used to pulled special passenger trains such as Board of Directors 
trains. Such trips occurred infrequently. Every time the shop would set up the 
units for passenger service, they would find the exhaust stack full of sand. It 
wasn't easy getting the sand out once it was in the steam generator. The Q 
covers may have been set up on legs so that the exhaust could vent around the 
side of the covers. A close up photo might determine whether they were fixed in 
place or had to be removed for steam generator use. 

Bill Barber
Gravois Mills, MO

On Oct 15, 2011, at 2:17 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Re: Steam Generators on GPs/SDs
> Posted by: "Jack Ferris" fhs1955@gmail.com jferri01
> Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:23 pm (PDT)
> 
> 
> 
> If you haven't already, look at page 107 in Holck's /Burlington Route 
> Color Pictorial, Volume I. /Also, page 106 is a low level view clearly 
> showing the handles. If memory serves (Bill Barber feel free to jump in 
> here) Al Kamm, Jr. told me that the covers were put there to keep 
> hostlers from pouring sand down the steam generator exhaust. Note that 
> the sand filler hatch is centered on the nose just forward of the steam 
> generator intake and exhaust. That would make it the forward of the two 
> covers. I don't recall ever seeing a photo of the G7's or 9's in 
> passenger service which would clearly answer the question of whether or 
> not the covers were removed for that service, but I don't see how the 
> intake and exhaust could function with the covers in place.
> 
> Jack Ferris

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