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Re: [CBQ] Re: Steam Generators on GPs/SDs

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Steam Generators on GPs/SDs
From: Robert munshower <bearmtnbob@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:58:50 -0700 (PDT)
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Most of the C&S 800's had flanged metal caps that were fitted with threaded 
rods that ran through a tapped/threaded 3/8th inch steel flatstock (not visible 
from outside) and a handle secured by locking nuts so that the cover could be 
raised lowered to provide air flow into the nose compartment, temperatures were 
well over 110 in there in the summer and many stank. A lot of water could get 
in during a thunderstorm The cover could be quickly lowered in case it rained, 
also the radio units were kept in the nose too and the heat was no friend to 
them. I have seen hot box detector sticks and the wax coating on track 
torpedoes melt off in there during a hot Colorado summer

. Hope this trivia helps a bit.

From: Rick Keil <rkeil6721@hotmail.com>
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: Steam Generators on GPs/SDs


  

I found a couple of pics in Doughty's Burlington Route Through Passenger 
Service. Towards the back are some shots of SDs in the Black Hills and the 
trailing unit has the covers removed. It appears the exhaust cover was a cap 
that slipped over the top with a handle while the intake was the entire cover. 
The DW part looks to be spot on.

Again, thanks to all.

Ricky Keil


> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> From: clipperw@gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:56:13 -0500
> Subject: [CBQ] Re: Steam Generators on GPs/SDs
> 
> Jack,
> 
> You are correct about the covers which were not part of the EMD application, 
> but rather a RR added modification. I don't know about incidences on the Q, 
> but the Duluth Missabe & Iron Range had two SD-9s equipped with steam 
> generators that were used to pulled special passenger trains such as Board of 
> Directors trains. Such trips occurred infrequently. Every time the shop would 
> set up the units for passenger service, they would find the exhaust stack 
> full of sand. It wasn't easy getting the sand out once it was in the steam 
> generator. The Q covers may have been set up on legs so that the exhaust 
> could vent around the side of the covers. A close up photo might determine 
> whether they were fixed in place or had to be removed for steam generator 
> use. 
> 
> Bill Barber
> Gravois Mills, MO
> 
> On Oct 15, 2011, at 2:17 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> 
> > Re: Steam Generators on GPs/SDs
> > Posted by: "Jack Ferris" fhs1955@gmail.com jferri01
> > Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:23 pm (PDT)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you haven't already, look at page 107 in Holck's /Burlington Route 
> > Color Pictorial, Volume I. /Also, page 106 is a low level view clearly 
> > showing the handles. If memory serves (Bill Barber feel free to jump in 
> > here) Al Kamm, Jr. told me that the covers were put there to keep 
> > hostlers from pouring sand down the steam generator exhaust. Note that 
> > the sand filler hatch is centered on the nose just forward of the steam 
> > generator intake and exhaust. That would make it the forward of the two 
> > covers. I don't recall ever seeing a photo of the G7's or 9's in 
> > passenger service which would clearly answer the question of whether or 
> > not the covers were removed for that service, but I don't see how the 
> > intake and exhaust could function with the covers in place.
> > 
> > Jack Ferris
> 
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