Nelson
I took a quick look at my TRAINS file this morning...I looked at the covers for
59 and didn't see the piece and IIRC there was a picture and wording on the
cover so it may not be 59.
RE: ZR 15 and 8. Northbound No 15 arrived at Burlington via Q at 10:15pm
departed as RI 15 at 10:40pm..........Southbound ZR as RI No. 8 arrived at
Burlington at 1:10 am and departed Burlington as Q No. 8 at 1:35 am.
As pointed out these trains on the Q were Hannbal Division trains and thus
don't show up on the Ottumwa and Creston Division TT's at Burlington.
Pete
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From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Apr 14, 2011 8:04 am
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Train Number Question Followup
Ken informed me that #15 was the Zephyr Rocket Northbound and #8 was the
Zephyr Rocket Southbound, so apparently there were more than one #15 and #8
through Burlington. He didn't say whether those train numbers were on the RI
timetable, the Burlington timetable, or both.
The UI library has a subscription to Trains, so I'll look up the article on
the fast mail in the archives.
Thanks for all the information.
Nelson
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Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 10:44 PM
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AS I stated earller..29 is the Fast Mail..Not 15...Look at your operating
TT. 29 overtakes 15 at Ottumwa.....Look at the details of the TT..15 is
making all the intemediate stops..29 only stops at the division
points...Burllington, Ottumwa...Creston and goes into CB transfer 2 hours
ahead of 15. 15's purpose was to serve the intermediate stations across
Iowa with stops or moving mail dispatch and pickup..29's purpose was to get
the UP West Coast and Pacific Northwet mail to CB Transfer as fast as
possible. 29 carried only a "rider coach" for the train crew.....
TRAINS magazine carried a feature...I think it was sometime in 1959...some
significant anniversary of the fast mail's inauguration on Train 29 and its
operation..It may have been reprinted again at some later date.
The Fast Mail only ran westbound...No. 8 was his counterpart..but not on a
fast schedule..
Also No. 2 as I said earlier is Zephyr 9902 originating at Hannibal as No.
42 and then running local Burlington to Chicago with stops at Monmouth,
Galesburg, Galva, Kewanee Buda Princeton Mendota, Earlville Dandwich, Plano,
and Aurora
I think this answers all your quesitons.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 13, 2011 7:57 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Train Number Question Followup
Here is the information I've gotten so far.
Employee TT 81, February 1, 1953
Train #1/#10 Denver Zephyr
Train #17/#18 California Zephyr
Train #3/#30 Ak-Sar-Ben Zephyr
Train #5/#2 Zephyr 9902
Train #7/#14 Mail and Express Local
Train #11/#12 Nebraska Zephyr
Train #15/? Fast Mail
Train #19/#6 Coloradoan
Train #29/? ?
Train #2/? Burlington, Galesburg and Chicago Local
There is one discrepancy in the responses - train #15 is listed in several
places as the fast mail westbound, while one response says train #29 was the
fast mail. I still don't have the train numbers for the Eastbound Fast Mail
or the Eastbound Burlington, Galesburg and Chicago Local. I still don't know
for sure the name of train #29 Westbound and what the Eastbound train number
might have been for this train. Did the fast mail only run Westbound? I'd be
really happy is someone could fill in the question marks and correct any
errors.
Nelson
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