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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Fourth Main
From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 20:09:35 -0800 (PST)
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The idea of the four mains was to start at Union Ave Tower and run to West 
Eola.  After the elevation was completed in Aurora there was designs in a very 
nice book printed by the Railroad to elevate the main line from Cicero to Eola 
but the city farther along the line did not want the Great Wall of the 
Burlington built thru their towns that and the Depression stopped the elevation 
work.  Thru Aurora there was to be 5 tracks with two more built to the 
west/right of the present elevation as noted by looking at the present 
elevation.  The east/left side has a more finished look while the other side is 
straight and also is more open as this was the side the tracks were kept on to 
run while the elevation was put up.  Then it was to be used for the foundation 
and more elevated tracks as preDepression traffic forcasts were in the 
neighborhood of 200+ trains a day.  


Larger locomotives and cars with larger capacities dropped the number of trains 
and the Depression slowed the growth of traffic.  Being able to move more 
traffic with CTC also helped to preclude the need for more tracks.  A lot of 
what we see today is not what it use to look like.
Steve in SC




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From: "qutlx1@aol.com" <qutlx1@aol.com>
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Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 9:02:43 AM
Subject: [CBQ] Fourth Main

  
Rupert,

There have been a couple prior discussions on the fourth main but here is 
what I have found over the years.

In Overtons Burlington Route,Chapter 18 page 338 is a short 
discussion..."as an indication of the density of traffic on the main stem east  
of Aurora, 

a fourth track was laid down over the twelve miles between Downers  Grove 
and Eola in 1929-30".

I seem to recall that prior posts reported this 4th main to have lasted 
only about 4 years due to removal as cost reduction move in the great 
depression.

Now from personal observations the track was on the North side as  evidence 
by the stubs that were in place at Naperville up until the 70's  and the 
bridge footings at the Du Page river west of Naperville,Salt Creek just  west 
of Lisle and the wide opening under the EJ&E at Eola. Also the company 
service road that runs along the North side for much of this distance was where 
the tracks were located.
Also check out Simpkins map of Downers Grove yard in the article in Zephyr 
59 showing the remnant there being used in 1947. 

Just as an aside when I went to work on the RR in the early 70s  noone 
recalled  the 4th main and when I would bring it up; it was  hotly disputed 
until I would bring up the above points. Of course most of even  the oldest 
guys 

at that time had late 30s or early 40s seniority dates. That's  why it's so 
important to record history as it is otherwise lost as us  mortals pass on.

Leo Phillipp

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