From: HOL WAGNER
Repainting of the E-units was a priority when the new image Chinese red
schemes were adopted in 1959, and ALL E-units had been repainted before
the end of 1960.
Hol Wagner
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Q E5 Units
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 06:10:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Bryan Howell <tubaman21@yahoo.com>
The stripes were changed to red after the Q adopted the 'Redbird'
scheme
with
the delivery of the SD24's in 1959. The change didn't happen overnight
and it
took a while for the units to come into the shop to get the
modifications. I
believe this change was discussed in BB #10 covering the E-units. I can
check
when I get home to see if there is a more precise answer in there.
1959-1963 was probably the transition period with both schemes being
correct.
In terms of IRM's Silver Pilot, when it arrived at the museum, it
was still
lettered C&S 9952A and had the red stripes. The black stripes were then
restored within the last 10 years to be more prototypical with the NZ
trainset.
Bryan J. Howell
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From: John Manion <railbass@comcast.net
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To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 4:58:39 AM
Subject: [CBQ] Q E5 Units
I'm sure this question has been raised before, but I am kitbashing
three undec Proto 2000 E6A-B units into E5A-Bs. I have Union Station
Products corrugated passenger car siding and am using a NWSL riveter
to make the sign board. My question is about the color of the faux
grills and nose stripes. In looking at Holck's Burlington Route
Color Pictorial, Vol 1, he says that the E7s were introduced in 1945
with three black stripes. He also shows three photos of E5s in 1947,
1956, and 1958, all with three black stripes. He also shows photos
of E7s, E8s and E9s with four red stripes. What was the Q guidance
on these stripes? When did they change from black to red? In
particular, when did the three black stripes on the E5s change to red,
as a Chuck Ziegler 1964 photo on the BRHS gallery shows an E5 with red
stripes and grills. IRM's Silver Pilot has three black stripes, but
as that is a historic restoration, it could be any period.
As I have three sets to paint and decal, I want to represent the E5
through its history. For what periods should I use black stripes,
and when should I use red?
- John Manion
Denver, CO
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