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From: Gerald & Virginia Edgar <vje68@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 20:24:07 -0500
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Per this recent exchange on the Strauss book:
 
Not to be overly critical of Strauss as he has given us a good trilogy on 
Burlington passenger service (with the imminent 3rd book re: Q's long distant 
trains).  However when one looks at his and some other 'authoritive' books on 
the Burlington, how do they expect to indeed have a thorough book on an aspect 
of the Burlington (or any RR for that matter) without accessing information 
from the respective Historical Societies?  Yes, the Burlington is among the few 
RR's with an expansive historical collection accessible to all would-be authors 
(Newberry library) and not all enthusiasts & former employees of the Q are mbrs 
of BRHS (just as not all Milw, NYC or SP fans/ret'd emps are mbrs of their 
respective RR's groups).  Thus BRHS or any other RR group does not have a 
monopoly of information relevant to "their" road.  However would you or I 
research & author a book on 'widgets' without contacting the National Widget 
Association to glean what info they had either as a group and/or to contact 
their members including former widget workers to see what they could 
contribute?  Ditto for model mfgs (for example: Con-Cor contacted BRHS before 
doing the PZ)
 
It's no conicidence that the very best books on any railroad are done by 
authors who either are active members of the respective 'historical societies' 
or have asked members of said groups to share their files, memories, data, 
photos, memorabilia, etc.   Over the years I have found it very instructive for 
any of my RR books to see what the authors used as source material.  My 
thoughts anyway....
 
Gerald

 
 



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From: drgw18@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 20:03:23 -0500
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Pullmans of C&S #29 & #30


  



The cars changed over time - they sometimes were 
a 6-6 and a 10-1-2, sometimes an 8-1-2 - it 
varied depending on year & season. The 6-6 was 
the 4084-B variety (originally for the Empire 
Builder, rebuilt from 14 section cars, one bought 
by the Q after divestiture (PIERRE 
CHOUTEAU)). There were two Oriental brass models 
based on these cars - one specifically labeled 
for the 1937 Empire Builder and the other labeled simply 6-6.

Agree, Charlie, worst thing about Strauss's books 
- no index. And then, very short shrift given to 
non-named trains (often without the specific 
consist as provided the named trains) and 
sometimes without the generic consist of the 
named trains. Should be a third volume for such.

At 02:29 PM 10/7/2010, you wrote:
>
>
>Strauss's Burlington Route Passenger Trains Vol. 1 shows:
>C&S / CB&Q Nos. 29 & 30
>Denver-Billings via Wendover
>Coach, Denver-Billings
>Dining Car, Casper-Basin
>12 Sections - 1 Drawing Room Sleeping Car, Cheyenne-Casper
>10 Sections-Buffet-Lounge-Observation Car, Denver-Billings
>
>There is another listing but it only shows the 
>last car above for Pullman accomodations.
>
>There might be other listings but, as the 
>otherwise excellent book has no #))%*% index, I did not run across any.
>
>Charlie Vlk
>I would appreciate knowing what Pullmans 
>(10-1-2) where used on #29 & #30 from Denver to 
>Billings. I am looking for real names! Any thing between 1948 to 1967. Thanks,
>art gibson
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