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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Twin Cities Trains
From: "herrick01" <herrick@krausonline.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:49:39 -0000
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My favorite shot of #45 leaving CUS in 1939: 
http://photoswest.org:8080/cgi-bin/cw_cgi?fullRecord+11376+594+4175+940+0

Bob Herrick

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, rgortowski@... wrote:
>
> 
> Bill,
> 
> Interesting - in 1950, numbers 45/52 were the head-end heavy 
> Chicago/Minneapolis local that was truly a "Slow boat to Minneapolis."  It 
> had a painfully long run time. In 1947 the GN/Q re-instituted the Oriental 
> Limited as the 2nd transcontinental train (behind the Empire Builder).  The 
> OL was replaced by the Western Star in 1951.  
> 
> Rich Gortowski
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Barber <clipperw@...>
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Jul 9, 2010 11:05 am
> Subject: [CBQ] Re: Twin Cities Trains
> 
> 
>  
> 
> According to John Strauss in his book "Burlington Route Passenger 
> Trains Volume One", the Mississippi Riverview was inaugurated on 
> April 1, 1931, following the discontinuance of the Oriental Limited 
> on March 31. It carried the same train numbers as the Oriental 
> Limited did while on the Q portion of the run. While the name, 
> Mississippi Riverview may have been dropped with the inauguration of 
> the Twin Cities Zephyrs in 1935, the train and it's numbers continued 
> on for some years. The numbers were Tr. 45 and 52. Information 
> concerning the Mississippi Riverview is located on page 39 of John's 
> book. It also shows the typical consist which included: an express 
> car Chicago - Minot, an express car Chicago - Seattle, a baggage 
> express car Chicago - St. Paul, an RPO baggage Chicago - Minneapolis, 
> a baggage express car Chicago - Minneapolis, a combine Chicago - 
> Minneapolis, one or more chair cars Chicago - Minneapolis, a dining 
> car Chicago - Minneapolis, and a Parlor-Lounge-Solarium car, either 
> Mississippi or Riverview, Chicago - Minneapolis. The two parlor cars 
> had been purchased from the SP&S.
> 
> Bill Barber
> Gravois Mills, MO
> 
> On Jul 9, 2010, at 3:14 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> 
> > Re: Twin Cities Trains
> > Posted by: "Gerald & Virginia Edgar" vje68@... gaedgar66
> > Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:49 am (PDT)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The Mississippi Riverview was not overlooked - it's a matter of 
> > GN's EPB, NP's NCL & Q's Blackhawk having their names unchanged 
> > from 'way back when' to BN (& into Amtrak in case of EPB/NCL) 
> > whereas the Twin's took over the day train name in the 30's. If you 
> > had been a railfan, traveler, travel agent, etc in the first 1/3 of 
> > the century, the Mississippi Riverview was well known. I'll bring 
> > some of their brochures to Spring meet (have to miss our annual 
> > this fall). Pre-Twin TT's also extolled the M.R.
> >
> > Gerald
> 
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