Bill,
Interesting - in 1950, numbers 45/52 were the head-end heavy
Chicago/Minneapolis local that was truly a "Slow boat to Minneapolis." It had
a painfully long run time. In 1947 the GN/Q re-instituted the Oriental Limited
as the 2nd transcontinental train (behind the Empire Builder). The OL was
replaced by the Western Star in 1951.
Rich Gortowski
-----Original Message-----
From: William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 9, 2010 11:05 am
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Twin Cities Trains
According to John Strauss in his book "Burlington Route Passenger
Trains Volume One", the Mississippi Riverview was inaugurated on
April 1, 1931, following the discontinuance of the Oriental Limited
on March 31. It carried the same train numbers as the Oriental
Limited did while on the Q portion of the run. While the name,
Mississippi Riverview may have been dropped with the inauguration of
the Twin Cities Zephyrs in 1935, the train and it's numbers continued
on for some years. The numbers were Tr. 45 and 52. Information
concerning the Mississippi Riverview is located on page 39 of John's
book. It also shows the typical consist which included: an express
car Chicago - Minot, an express car Chicago - Seattle, a baggage
express car Chicago - St. Paul, an RPO baggage Chicago - Minneapolis,
a baggage express car Chicago - Minneapolis, a combine Chicago -
Minneapolis, one or more chair cars Chicago - Minneapolis, a dining
car Chicago - Minneapolis, and a Parlor-Lounge-Solarium car, either
Mississippi or Riverview, Chicago - Minneapolis. The two parlor cars
had been purchased from the SP&S.
Bill Barber
Gravois Mills, MO
On Jul 9, 2010, at 3:14 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Re: Twin Cities Trains
> Posted by: "Gerald & Virginia Edgar" vje68@hotmail.com gaedgar66
> Thu Jul 8, 2010 7:49 am (PDT)
>
>
>
>
> The Mississippi Riverview was not overlooked - it's a matter of
> GN's EPB, NP's NCL & Q's Blackhawk having their names unchanged
> from 'way back when' to BN (& into Amtrak in case of EPB/NCL)
> whereas the Twin's took over the day train name in the 30's. If you
> had been a railfan, traveler, travel agent, etc in the first 1/3 of
> the century, the Mississippi Riverview was well known. I'll bring
> some of their brochures to Spring meet (have to miss our annual
> this fall). Pre-Twin TT's also extolled the M.R.
>
> Gerald
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