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Re: [CBQ] NP lease flat cars

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:30:13 -0500
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Gerald-

I've always understood that the CB&Q flats (class at the moment not in my 
memory, but the straight sill jobs that were used under the B29 housings, 
for example) were built by the CB&Q to NP drawings.
Also heard that Havelock built some NP "economy" baggage car "kits" for the 
NP and that the CB&Q cars were inspired by them.

The commonality of design between NP, CB&Q and GN equipment is a great 
research project for somebody.... the Q T1 2-6-6-2s that were diverted from 
the GN and had similar machines on the NP, tender designs (both roll-top and 
coal pusher).... even some of the GN and NP steam looks very CB&Q-ish if you 
take off the cab, headlight and other GN or NP fixtures.....

Charlie Vlk



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerald & Virginia Edgar" <vje68@hotmail.com>
To: <cbq@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] NP lease flat cars


>
> I forwarded your good question to the NP Yahoo group to which I also 
> belong for this very reason.
>
> I'll also check my CB&Q Annual Reports tonight as I recall these leases 
> are listed.  I do know CB&Q had a # of flats dedicated
>
> to Caterpillar traffic to/from Peoria, IL and of course Cat had customers 
> all over the USA and would export around the world.
>
> Ditto for some of the farm tractor/implement dealers as well as some auto 
> parts plants.
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>
> Gerald
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> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> From: gamlenz@ihug.co.nz
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 11:52:40 +1200
> Subject: [CBQ] NP lease flat cars
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>
> I'm trying to find out more about three groups of flat cars that were 
> leased to or from the NP by the CB&Q.
>
> My query relates to
> a) 7 cars from series 92000-92349 (FM-14) built in 1942 and leased to NP
> b) 10 cars from series 92400-92799 (FM-14A) built in 1952 and leased to NP
> c) 17 car leased from NP in 1964/5, renumbered to CB&Q 88500-88516
>
> Judging by the ORER totals, it appears that the lease of groups (a) and 
> (b) also took place in 1964, so I suspect that it was an "arranged swap", 
> especially as 17 is an unusual number! Could they have been "leased" as 
> compensation following a crash?
>
> Can anyone provide any information about the NP cars - they don't appear 
> in the diagram books - or offer any other reasons for the exchange.
>
> Thanks
>
> Rupert Gamlen
> Auckland NZ
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