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Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:52:33 -0000
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Hi Rupert,

Below is part of the ICC report for the accident at Naperville.


No. 11, a west-bound first-class passenger train, consisted of Diesel-electric 
units 9920 A and 9920 B, one baggage car, one storage-mail car, two baggage 
cars, one mail car, one refrigerator-express car, two baggage cars, two 
coaches, one dining car, one parlor-lounge car and one, coach, in the order 
named. The sixth car was of steel-underframe construction, the ninth to 
eleventh-cars, inclusive, were of lightweight stainless-steel construction, and 
the remainder of the cars were of conventional all-steel construction. This 
train departed from Chicago Union Station, 28.44 miles east of Naperville, at 
12:35 p.m., on time, and, moving on track No. 2, passed Downer's Grove, the 
last open office, 7.32 miles east of Naperville, at 12:57 p.m., 1 minute late. 
Soon afterward, some object was seen flying front beneath one of the cars and 
the train was stopped at Naperville for inspection at 1:03 p.m., with the rear 
end standing 1,097 feet east of the station. About 2 minutes later the rear end 
was struck by No. 39.

No. 39, a west-bound first-class passenger train, consisted of Diesel-electric 
units 9910 A and 9910 B, coupled in multiple control, three coaches, one dining 
car, two tourist sleeping cars and three Pullman sleeping cars, in the order 
named. All cars were of steel construction. This train departed from Chicago 
Union Station at 12:35 p.m., on time, and moved on track No. 1 to Kedzie 
Avenue, 23.59 miles east of Naperville, then entered track No. 2, passed 
Downer's Grove at 1 p.m., 2 minutes late, passed signal 227.1, which displayed 
approach-next-signal-prepared-to-stop, passed signal 228.1, which displayed 
stop-then-proceed, passed the flagman of No. 11, and while moving at an 
estimated speed of not less than 45 miles per hour it collided with No. 11 at a 
point 934 feet west of signal 228.1.

As can be seen in the report, the Advance flyer (#11) had five baggage cars 
while the Exposition Flyer (#39) had none.

I believe that the Advance Flyer was the first section and the Exposition Flyer 
was the second section of the same train (Expo Flyer)

There would be no need for baggage cars on the second section as all of the 
passengers checked baggage on both trains would go into the cars in the first 
section. The baggage-men would know at what station stop what baggage would 
need to come off and the corresponding passenger would see the station agent to 
collect their baggage.

In my rail travels (when I was a young lad with my parents) we didn't have any 
checked baggage, it wasn't necessary to check the two to three suitcases we 
would have for our trip. I think it was passengers who had more luggage or 
larger trunks/cases that would have theirs checked.

I hope this helps and I am sure that someone else can jump in here with more 
information as needed.

Greg


--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Rupert & Maureen" <gamlenz@...> wrote:
>
> I've mentioned before that Chuck Spinner was researching the Naperville Crash 
> between the Advance Flyer and the Exposition Flyer.
> 
> As part of his research, he recently went to the North East Railway Museum 
> where he saw BA-11 baggage car #1530 and was told it in the consist of the 
> Exposition Flyer at the time of The Crash.  However, there are no baggage 
> cars listed in the Bulletin 42 for the Exposition Flyer for that day.
> 
> So he has a couple of queries. Why would there not be a baggage car on the 
> Exposition Flyer?  What happened to passengers' baggage? 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Rupert Gamlen
> Auckland NZ
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>




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