I have a copy I purchased for a C note about 15 years ago. I studied the
photograph in the brochure and it appears to be a belt strap that may of fell
out of the waiter's coat as he serves a table. At first glance it does appear
that it may be something of his is hanging out... but it's really not clear
what it is.
Now don't ask me where my copy is... it's tucked away someplace I can't
remember, I've moved three times since I filed it away.
I've only seen the one copy I purchased, but I've heard a few still show up at
Railroadiana shows now and again between collectors.
Skip Waters
Dallas, Texas
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From: Bob Webber <cz17@comcast.net>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 12:22:03 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] CZ brochure gaffe
In the WP CZ Time tables, pre - 1968, there was a photo of a back
waiter, serving a family of four. On one PTT, there was an issue
with a defect in the negative or a misplaced whisk broom, or ... At
any rate, the photo looked enough like the real thing to be of widely
ranging acclaim and horror. If anyone saw Tom Hanks in the Bachelor
Party, the scene in the Chippindale- esgue club with the future
mother-in-law is similar in nature. It's a widely known issue, one
that is likely much more known in the WP sphere of things. The WP
PTT with the photo is known to sell VERY high. An d no one wants to
take a scan of theirs as it would likely limit the sales and
value. All in all it is a lot of to-do about not much at all -
knee-jerk reactionaries have always been around.
At 09:55 AM 1/3/2010, you wrote:
>Yes, it's real. I have seen a variety of copies. It is a WP brochure.
>
>At 07:19 AM 1/3/2010, you wrote:
> >I grew up in Denver following the D&RGW and CB&Q and rode the CZ a number of
> >times, often just to Grand Junction or Glenwood Springs and return. I was
> >also a member of the Intermountain Chapter of NRHS and a volunteer at the
> >Colorado Railroad Museum at that time, up to graduation from CSU in 1967.
> >I remember hearing the story about the infamous brochure several times, but
> >I never got one or saw one myself and thought about it as maybe a rumor. I
> >have four VHS copies of CZ videos, including an autographed copy of Richard
> >Luckin's award winning video, which I am watching this morning. I don't
> >remember noticing that in the video, but I'm going to watch for it. I also
> >have *Portrait of a Silver Lad*y and Hal Zimmerman's *The Story of the
> >California Zephyr.* I will do a little research for the story.
> >- John Manion
> > Denver, CO
> >
> >On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 7:58 PM, smokyjoe66 <js08ws62@sbcglobal. net> wrote:rn
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is off-topic and may well have been covered in previous discussions,
> > > but last night I heard an interesting anecdote about the
> California Zephyr
> > > which I had never heard before. I don't think it is apocryphal,
> or a joke.
> > > There was documentary evidence supporting it.
> > >
> > > Late last night about 11:30 p.m. the PBS television station in
> Kansas City,
> > > KCPT, broadcast a documentary specifically about the California
> Zephyr. It
> > > was extremely well done, well- garnished with film/voice commentary from
> > > officials of the CB&Q., D&RGW, and WP. The name "Lukin" appeared
> > prominently
> > > in the production credits.
> > >
> > > Anyway, the documentary contained a story about a brochure
> publicizing the
> > > amenities and services aboard the California Zephyr in the late
> 1940s-early
> > > 1950s. It was the sort of brochure one sees in travel agency
> racks full of
> > > tourist promotions. Unfolding of the brochure one would see a
> timetable and
> > > many photos of people enjoying the Vista Domes and the services
> aboard the
> > > CZ.
> > >
> > > One of the photos showed a white-coated black waiter serving
> diners seated
> > > at a table. An unfortunate arrangement of table items and
> lighting produced
> > > shadows in the image which seemed to show the black waiter's
> penis hanging
> > > out of an unzipped fly.
> > >
> > > So soon as these brochures were published they came to the
> attention of the
> > > various railroads' presidents who went apoplectic. They immediately sent
> > > their vice presidents hither and yon to gather up so many of
> > these brochures
> > > as they could lay hands on before they were in general circulation. They
> > > must've been pretty successful, because I have never seen one nor have I
> > > heard this story before. But this incident was discussed in the
> > documentary,
> > > and briefly showed the offending photo.
> > >
> > > I'm hoping that someone on this list who knows something more about this
> > > incident will comment on it. Does anyone have the brochure? Does
> > anyone know
> > > where I could get one of those brochures. I told the story today is some
> > > retired Burlington men whose careers spanned that era. They had
> never heard
> > > this story before but were naturally enough amused by it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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