This is great info. I have started logging the consist info I received
from Tim Wells into an Excel spreadsheet. I can tell you that the
buffet-coach is always either Silver Garden or Silver Patio. The Q
sleeper for the consists I have done so far has been either Silver
Plateau or Silver Terrain (10-6 from the DZ). Silver Dale showed up in
one consist designated as NW-1 (what does NW-1 signify?). It is the
same plan as Silver Crag on the CZ. Did BLI ever do the 10-6 sleeper
for the CZ?
Very common has also been an GN Empire Builder coach in the 1215-1232
series, and the NP slumbercoaches. Also, some interesting mail &
baggage cars from UP, NYC, and PRR.
There are a number of cars with names like Bush River and Schulylkill
River. These are designated as "D.H." There are also cars designated
as NW-1 or NW-2 with names like "Imp Rock" or "Imp Cape". I thought
these might be PRR or NYC "Imperial" series sleepers, but I cannot
find mention of these particular names in any books. Any help with
this would be appreciated.
Tom Mack
Cincinnati, OH
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Cy Svobodny <ctsvobodny@...> wrote:
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> john goodman <jhgoodman2001@...> wrote: Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008
13:05:04 -0800 (PST)
> From: john goodman <jhgoodman2001@...>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: [CBQ] GN and NP Diners Mpls/StP to Chicago
> To: Cy Svobodny <ctsvobodny@...>
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> Cy: Please forward this to your CBQ group. I was
> part of a group who owned a Soo Line business car #48
> and kept it in the Mpls CBQ coach yard from 1963 until
> 1968. I visited the yards several times a week to
> check on our car. I became friends with the foreman
> and most of the help in the yard. CBQ#48 Blackhawk
> had two h/w diners (#172-176) that were the normal
> diner-lounges on this train. Towards the late 1966
> thru 1968 period these cars were replaced by two l/w
> dome-lounge cars Silver Garden and Silver Patio.
> These cars remained on the train until food service
> was removed in late 1969 thru 1970. These cars were
> the only food-liquor cars carried on the Blackhawk,
> and no NP nor GN diners went beyond St. Paul thru to
> Chicago. The CBQ food car was always on the rear
> of the train leaving Mpls, so that the thru NP cars
> off the Mainstreeter and the thru GN cars off the
> Western Star had access to this CBQ food-liquor car
> east of St. Paul. John Goodman
> --- Cy Svobodny wrote:
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> > Tom Mack wrote: To:
> > CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> > From: "Tom Mack"
> > Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:59:57 -0000
> > Subject: [CBQ] GN and NP Diners Mpls/StP to Chicago
> >
> > Although the EB and NCL had their own
> > diners, it would appear from
> > some consist info I got from Tim Wells and checking
> > a few NP and GN
> > timetables I have that on the combined BH/MS/WS the
> > only diner was the
> > Q diner. That would seem to make sense since these
> > were secondary
> > trains and ran at night. Does anyone know if a GN or
> > NP diner was ever
> > part of the consist of the BH/MS/WS in the late
> > 60's?
> >
> > Tom Mack
> > Cincinnati, OH
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