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Re: [CBQ] Why didn't Silver Inn and Silver Manor go to Amtrak?

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Why didn't Silver Inn and Silver Manor go to Amtrak?
From: "Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@prodigy.net>
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 10:32:34 -0700 (PDT)
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I wonder if it had something to do with where the cars were assigned just prior 
to Amtrak, and also what diners Amtrak used on its San Francisco and Denver 
Zephyrs in the early years.
   
  I believe that, by May of 1971, the only ex-Q train that ran a full diner 
regularly was the Denver Zephyr.  The California Service/Nebraska Zephyr used 
the Chuck Wagons as their food service cars.
   
  sjl

Russ Strodtz <borneo@19main.com> wrote:
          It may be set by PC doing what Amtrak wanted. There were sets on
lists and I'm not even sure that they were able to inspect everything
that they could look at. It is my understandment that other than
the Suburban what they got was what they were told to send out as
Amtrak wanted them. Also heard that UP could not understand exactly
what they wanted and how it was figured out but they still got what
was wanted. Still did not get enough and had to lease all kinds of
odd stuff.

Even in recent times that are some odd things that are hard to
understand. If you can spend government money I guess that is
what will be decided.

Russ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Stephen J. Levine 
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, 28 June, 2008 18:33
Subject: [CBQ] Why didn't Silver Inn and Silver Manor go to Amtrak?

I have always been curious as to why the 1952 diners Silver Inn and Silver 
Manor were not acquired by Amtrak.

If BN was trying to hang onto the newer equipment for their own executive 
trains, the 1956 DZ Silver Tureen and Silver Chef were their newest diners, 
followed by the ones running on the North Coast Limited. Yet these all went to 
Amtrak.

If the goal was to sell Amtrak the newest equipment, then why did the 1948 CZ 
diners go to Amtrak instead of the two diners above (the third 1952 diner, the 
Silver Cuisine, did go to Amtrak.

Was it because, with the Kansas City service not working out the way it was 
intended, these two diners became underused and thus, by 1971, were in the best 
condition of any of the Budd diners? I was wondering if anyone had any inside 
information.

sjl 

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