Brad,, Although I'm not positive, I was led to believe a Military leave of
absence was for a tour of duty say 2,3,or 4 years. If a man stayed away in the
military for a 20 year career he would probably forfeit his seniority
especially if a junior man squealed loud enough. It seems your man would
return to the RR between hitches and maybe each tour would be handled with a
new LOA. The Q allowed LOA for other reasons but was very stingy about handing
them out. Archie
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From: BRAD SLANEY
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:09 AM
Subject: [SPAM]RE: [SPAM][CBQ] Human Side-Forced
Archie brings up an interesting point. I was stationed at Wheelus AB
(Tripoli, Libya), 1965 - 1967. There was a Maintenance Officer (Major) on
the base who was a Conductor on the Pennsylvania. He had gone in the
military during WWII. He had served during the war, but as a Commissioned
Officer he was subject to recall. Consequently he was recalled during Korea
and another time during the Cold War. He retired from the military with 20
years and then goes back to the Pennsy with full seniority while in the Air
Force. Was it the same on the Burlington? Sounds pretty cushy, military
pension and seniority.
BRAD
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From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Archie
Sent: 02/12/2008 9:16 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SPAM][CBQ] Human Side-Forced
Leo, The way it worked for the Hannibal conductors was the oldest conductor
that didn't hold a pool turn as conductor was forced out of town to a St
Louis assignment while younger conductors got to stay in Hannibal and work
on the conductor's extra board. This was the reason many conductors gave up
their rights and became drones. This situation was finally turned around and
the youngest promoted conductors were forced out of town but not until the
mid eighties. When that happened, you should have heard the drones squall.
BTW the hog board I was refering to at Hannibal was set up for the
switchman's extra board. The oldest extra switchman was first out every day
and filled any vacancies until he got his five days in. When I transfered
from Galesburg, I was used to a rotating extra board where you went to the
bottom of the board when you finished a shift and took turns working your
way up to first out again. Imagine my surprise when I didn't get called out
for over ten days. I would call the crew caller and he would say I was three
times out, and the next day when I called he might say I was five times out.
Like Phil said, a guy could starve working like that. After a year of
fighting that hog board and three years in the Marine Corps I came home and
found myself first out on the hog board. I was moving up in the world.
Archie
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From: qutlx1@aol.com <mailto:qutlx1%40aol.com>
To: cbq@yahoogroups. <mailto:cbq%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:34 PM
Subject: [SPAM][CBQ] Human Side-Forced
Almost forgot about the biggest non incentive to take the promotion to
Condr. Once you were "examined" and if you had the lowest brkmns seniority
date in
your newly promoted group you were subject to being "forced". Forced meant
the youngest examined man was literally forced to fill the job that
absolutely
no one else would take. You stayed there until someone else bid the job
,bumped you off of it or a new group gets examined.
This usually meant filling some minimum pay night local at an away point for
extended periods of time.
Congratulations on your promotion !?
Leo Phillipp
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