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[CBQ] Re: Amtrak Uniforms et al

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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Amtrak Uniforms et al
From: "hjebone" <stu5632@everestkc.net>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 04:49:56 -0000
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And during the Burlington Steam excursions prior to 1966, we would 
frequent the Carlson & Co. offices, who would sell us genuine CB&Q 
trainmen's caps (the older wool 'stovepipe' versions) and Q cap 
badges, etc. which we would wear on the excursions. I still have 
mine. One day, while at CUS on a non-excursion day, we were 
approached by a homeless guy on the concourse trying to promote some 
booze money, thinking we were actually trainmen!

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "milwaukeeroad261" <milwaukeeroad261@...> 
wrote:
>
> I just got off the phone with Mitch and he asked me to post the 
> following information:
> 
> His involvment was actually with the Metra uniforms.  He jokes that 
> he was angry when he was in train service on the C&NW as the old 
> uniforms had been replaced with the new style ones (early 1970's).  
> He vowed that he would make the old uniforms return so when he 
> finally consulted with Metra concerning their uniforms, he 
basically 
> used the old C&NW specifications.  While he was employed by the 
> Milwaukee Road he was the involved with the BN and Milwaukee Road 
> suburban uniforms and worked as a liasion between those carriers 
and 
> the Grand Uniform Company of New York City.  This included bringing 
> back the three button coats instead of two button models.  Mitch 
also 
> worked with Amtrak during the '80's to bring back a more 
traditional 
> uniform and it appears that his work finally saw the light of day.
> 
> Don Crimmin
> 
>  
> 
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "milwaukeeroad261" <milwaukeeroad261@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > The former Milwaukee Road conductor about whom you are speaking 
is 
> > Mitchell Markovitz.  Mitch was always impeccably dressed and even 
> > wore detachable, heavily starched collars on his custom-made 
> uniform 
> > shirts.  Mitch had started on the C&NW, did a stint on Amtrak as 
a 
> > reservation and ticket clerk and then moved on to the Milwaukee 
> > Road.  He later worked for NICTD and served as a conductor and 
> > engineer on the South Shore.  All the time Mitch has pursued his 
> art 
> > career and some of his work has appeared over the years in Trains 
> > Magazine.  He has also done illustrations for many railroad 
books.  
> I 
> > count him as a personal friend and own several of his original 
> pieces 
> > of art work.  He lives with his family in Knox, IN, and is an 
> expert 
> > and authority on railroad passenger uniforms.
> > 
> > Don Crimmin
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Jpslhedgpeth@ wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Thanks Leo...BTW your mention of a former Milw brakeman reminds 
> me 
> > of something I observed back about 1974 or thereabouts...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > My dad passed away suddenly in the spring of 1973.?? It was 
> > sometime after that, possibly that winter of 73-74 my mother came 
> to 
> > Chicago to visit us.? I was meeting her at the CUS.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > While waiting I saw a Milwaukee brakeman, obviously from his 
> dress 
> > he was working as flagman on a passenger train.? He could have 
> posed 
> > for a photo as a trainman from the 1890's.? He was the neatest 
and 
> > most authentically attired trainman I have ever seen.? Dressed in 
> an 
> > immaculate uniform with stovepipe hat.? He sported an authentic 
> > 1890's style mustache carefully trimmed and manicured.? He was 
> > carrying his flagging kit and lanterns..? I, of course, didn't 
have 
> a 
> > camera with me, but I sure longed to photograph that guy.? Looked 
> > like he "stepped out of a bandbox"..
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It's too great a speculation to presume that he might be the 
guy 
> > who helped with the design of the "new look" for Amtrak.? BTW, 
> while 
> > I didn't get real close to the crew members, it appeared that in 
> > addition to the stovepipe hat that the cap badge looked like the 
> old 
> > style badges from the same era.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Pete
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: qutlx1@
> > > To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 3:55 pm
> > > Subject: [CBQ] Amtrak
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It's been at least a few years that Amtrak crews have reverted 
to 
> > the "stove 
> > > pipes". Not sure if this is totally correct but one BNSF Condr 
I 
> > know 
> > > attributes the change to a former Milw brkmn who ended up 
helping 
> > to design the 
> > > Amtrak uniforms. Believe his first name is Mitch. Keep in mind 
> the 
> > Milw kept the 
> > > stove pipes far longer than the Q. And,yes you are correct the 
Q 
> > went to 
> > > airline caps in the 60's as I have a matched set of Trainman 
and 
> > Condr. airline 
> > > caps.
> > > 
> > > Leo
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > 
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>




 
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