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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:36:20 -0600
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John,

I hope you have a lot of space or are modeling in "Z" scale! Even  
fore shortened, it would be a long way from Union Station to Clyde  
Yard. I can answer a couple of your questions. Passenger trains were  
turned by wyeing them at the 16th Street curve where the Q meets the  
Pennsy. The wye is imbedded into that junction which is about one and  
a half miles south of the depot entrance. The eastbound Amtrak  
Southwest Chief, Train #4, still wyes there everyday prior to arrival  
at Union Station. ( The train equipment departs as the eastbound  
Capitol Limited later in the evening and heads south out of the depot  
before turning east.)

As for the intermodal terminal at Clyde during Q days, it was located  
on the northwest side of Clyde Yard just east of freight house #9. I  
don't know where you might find a track layout for Clyde, but I have  
seen them. Of course, you will have to decide whether you are  
modeling it before or after the hump was installed in the mid '50s.  
Prior to then, it was a flat yard. Subsequently, (in BN days) the  
hump has been torn out and the entire area has been rebuilt into a  
much larger intermodal terminal.

Rupert Gamlen's suggestion about getting a copy of Ed DeRouin's Union  
Station book is a good one. It includes a track layout dating from  
1925 and also shows a diagram of the wye at 16th Street curve, as  
well as other information.

Bill Barber

On Nov 14, 2006, at 7:08 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Chicago Union Station
>
> Posted by: "John Ziola" johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net   johnz937
>
> Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:18 pm (PST)
>
> Group I need some help,
>
> I plan on modeling Chg.Union Sta. (during the CZ period) and need a  
> diagram of track layout for Station as well as Passenger car yard.
>
> Also same for the yard at Clyde. Was the intermodal operation part  
> of Clyde or was it separate?
>
> How did the passenger trains get turned?
>
> Commuted on the Q (and succesors) on and off from the 50's to the  
> 90's but never saw much beyond Union Station.
>
> Any sources would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> John



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