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Re: [CBQ] re: E. Dubuque tunnel

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] re: E. Dubuque tunnel
From: cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 10:06:42 -0700 (PDT)
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After 30+ years the memory ain't perfect.  

--- Deke Reiter <deke8706@yahoo.com> wrote:

> i went looking for the west portal from the top of
> the
> bluff last year trying to find a down on shot of the
> IC crossing the bridge...didn't find any road,
> someone's back yard was above the west portal so we
> couldn't get to the spot above it.
> 
> -Dereck
> 206612.tripod.com
> 
> --- cy svobodny <ctsvobodny@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > Thet curve is very sharp.  I road thru on the head
> > end
> > of Amtrak RDC in early 70's and could hear the
> > flanges
> > squeel in pain. Quite the adventure. As i recall a
> > road goes over the top just at the west portal. 
> CY
> > 
> > --- Charlie Vlk <cvlk@comcast.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > The tunnel at East Dubuque is unique even more
> > than
> > > you think!!!
> > > At the time of its construction the CB&N was at
> a
> > > grade much lower than it is today.
> > > Because the IC had to meet the grade of the
> bridge
> > > the tunnel floor and trackage was
> > > at a level that was higher than the CB&N track. 
> > So,
> > > for a while at least, until the CB&N
> > > grade could be raised, the IC crossed the CB&N
> on
> > a
> > > small swing bridge!!!!!
> > > Charlie Vlk
> > > 
> > >   The tunnel at E. Dubuque is owned & maintained
> > by
> > > IC (CN). The Q (and 
> > >   CGW) had rights going back to the days when E.
> > Dbq
> > > was known as 
> > >   Dunleith (old stock certificates for the
> nearby
> > IC
> > > bridge across the 
> > >   Mississippi are for the "Dubuque & Dunleith
> > Bridge
> > > Co".).
> > >   The tunnel is unique for 3 reasons: it at one
> > time
> > > had 3 RR's using 
> > >   it; it makes a complete 90 degree curve within
> > it
> > > portal to portal and 
> > >   finally, when west-bd trains emerge they are
> > > immediately atop the 
> > >   double track Q (BN) mainline and then in a
> > matter
> > > of 20' or so are on 
> > >   the bridge crossing the Mississippi. Quite a
> > shock
> > > for engineers on 
> > >   their 1st trip thru!
> > >   Yrs back there was a tower at the west portal
> > (was
> > > @ 2 different parts 
> > >   of the diamond over the yrs). At the east
> portal
> > > there was a shack 
> > >   for a crossing guard (lasted into the 50's) as
> > > well as a tell-tale.
> > >   Until the IC rebuilt it for higher loads
> > > (autoracks) the exhaust from 
> > >   steam could be seen atop the portals. last
> > sgteam
> > > to go thru would 
> > >   have been Q steam excursions from Dbq to
> > Savannah
> > > in the early 60's.
> > >   The ICHS site may have photos; it is easy to
> > find
> > > postcards of the 
> > >   tunnel on eBay or any RR show; both lithos and
> > > RPPC. Gerald
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >    
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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