Mark,
I've scanned the Spoor book foto ( appologies Mike, gotta help the young
modeler ). E mail me off line. See below. I haven't een the RC car but you
should watch the ribs on the ends. I believe these are the Bananna taper not
the rolling pin. Branchline put the wrong ends on thier Ltd ed. car according
to Al Hoffman. The neat thing is you get the 8-rung ladders in a Branchline kit
but you only need 4. If you buy thier undec. you get all the roof, door and
end variations. The plastic is also not as brittle as RC. Still great kits
though.
Check out Steam era freight cars on the net and you'll get Ted Cullota's site
with tons of inspiration and modelers notes. There is also a forum group that
has some interresting info and fodoz. Also go to Modelers Choice to see thier
lasered styrene car kits. Pricey for the college budget but they have cars and
decals nobody will ever do in injection molded. Quite a few Q cars like the rib
sided 60's era plug doors. If you have problems with the scan e me.Sincerly,
Rob Manley
Midwest Mod-U-Trak
"Ah, Sal, if you could sit with me high in the Basque contry with a cool bottle
of PoignonDix-neuf, then you'd know there are other things besides boxcars."
"I know that. It's just that I love boxcars and I love to read the names on
them like Missouri Pacific, Great Northern, Rock Island Line"
On the Road----Jack Kerouac
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Heiden
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:07 AM
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Grab iron mountings on CBQ XM-32f without roofwalk
Hi Rob,
Thanks for the reply. I'm using photos I've found on the Internet
for reference. Unfortunately, getting a copy of the CB&Q Color
Guide isn't feasible: I returned to university in the fall and money
is very tight (still, I haven't met a Color Guide that I didn't
like!). Also, this car is pretty much a one-off, although I am
thinking about modeling one of the 50ft boxcars in the series 21000-
22499.
As to level of detail, this car will be a layout warrior. However,
I have found from operating friends' layouts that I tend to notice
the ends of cars, usually because they aren't detailed the way the
sides are. Consequently, it's important to me to get the ends
right. The starting point for this project is a Red CabooseRC-8600,
with a 6ft door and 4/3/1 Improved Dreadnaught ends.
I have the shot of 63961 from Fallen Flags, but some of the A-end is
clipped off. All I can really tell from that photo is that the
horizontal grab iron is attached to the ladder stile. I'd
appreciate it if you could look for those slides, that would be a
big help.
Thanks again,
Mark Heiden
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, <robev1630@s...> wrote:
> Mark,
> First of all I have to ask what you are using for a reference. If
you do not have the Mike Spoor Morning Sun book "CB&Q color Guide to
Freight and Passenger Eqiuipment", GO GET IT. You should also have
Burlington Bulletin #7.
> It'll cost you approximatly the cost of 4 Branchline Blueprint
series kits which you better have if you want to do this right. What
carkit are you using as a starting point? What level of detail are
you going to achieve? Killer contest quality or layout warrior?
>
> On pp47 there is a great shot of car 63007 showing a 3/4 shot with
the A end plainly visible.
> Your question about the roof grab can be answered easily. Photos
I've seen show that it was cut off completely or show remnants of
the 2 support brackets for the walk way above the side ladders. A
long grab is suspended above the 4th rib up from the bottom some of
these appliances are tied into the ladder upright and some are
attached to the ends with 3 atachment points. Within this class are
variations that include some with 8' doors and some with roof
hatches for hide loading. Also look at www.rr-fallenflags.org
website under CBQ and you'll find a color shot of 63961's A end.
Some where in my basement is a carousel of Kodachromes I took at
Metron Steel full of deadlined HN32s and a couple of PDSD cars.
Sorry I don't have a slide scanner yet but when I find them I'll see
if I have good shots of both ends.
>
> E me if you need more info.
>
> Sincerly,
> Rob Manley
> Midwest Mod-U-Trak
> "Ah, Sal, if you could sit with me high in the Basque contry with
a cool bottle of PoignonDix-neuf, then you'd know there are other
things besides boxcars."
> "I know that. It's just that I love boxcars and I love to read the
names on them like Missouri Pacific, Great Northern, Rock Island
Line"
> On the Road----Jack Kerouac
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark
Heiden
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 3:40 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] Grab iron mountings on CBQ XM-32f without roofwalk
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm building a model of a CBQ XM-32f boxcar, minus the roofwalk
and
> with the A-end ladders cut down. I have two questions about
these
> modifications. First, after the roofwalk was removed, how was
the
> corner grab iron on the roof at the B-end attached? Second, a
long,
> horizontal grab iron was supposed to be mounted on the end of
the
> cars. Where was this grab iron located (eg, fourth rib from the
> bottom), and was there one on each end? Any help would be
appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark Heiden
>
>
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