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Re: [CBQ] How did the passenger trains make money and other questions?

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] How did the passenger trains make money and other questions?
From: "Ray Bedard" <tczephyr@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:52:02 -0700
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Bob is correct about everything he said. I too had the same experiences, but 
will add that the night scenes were lite up by the swinging mars lights on 
the E units adding to the interest as we sped along the flats of Kansas and 
Neb.

Ray Bedard
San Jose Ca

>From: Bob Webber <no17@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [CBQ] How did the passenger trains make money and other  
>questions?
>Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:11:21 -0500
>
>You slept in coach seats as you do in Amtrak coach seats today - but they
>were and are a far cry from airline seats.  They had legrest portions that
>fit on the foot rest portions - essentially making a chaise lounge and the
>back rest could go about 20 degrees from vertical - they were very
>comfortable.  I took it many times and slept quite well in coach.
>
>Those in sleeping cars had the dome sections in the obs & lounge cars
>reserved for them and the lounge areas in the obs reserved for them and the
>lounge areas in the lounge car - plenty of places to walk to and from and
>relax in.  Most didn't stay in their rooms - though the CZ cars were
>designed specifically so that you could see out both sides of the car from
>your rooms - which is why the CZ 10-6 is unlike most others.
>
>You could ride the domes the entire trip no one really bothered you.  But
>you occasionally left for food or sleep - so natural turnover
>happened.  Too, some people just didn't like the scenery of high desert or
>farm land - or being that high in mountain areas.  Some people felt queasy
>and had fear of heights.  So you could usually get a seat - not necessarily
>the best seat - but you could get a seat.
>
>I always got into the dome real early (if I ever went to sleep at
>night).  My pattern was usually the reverse of most folks.  I loved the
>domes at night and slept during the day.  Not all day, but there were parts
>of the trip that after the first few trips you knew that you could sleep
>and not miss anything.  Too - you could, if you were smart, combine a meal,
>a nap and a long station stop and be back in a dome seat before others.  If
>you knew the territory it helped a lot - joust as it does now on
>Amtrak.  But... if you were like me and got in the dome at about 9 pm and
>stayed until morning, you were just about guaranteed a prime seat at some
>point.  And there was NOTHING finer than being in a Budd short dome on a
>moon lit night when (finally) everyone else was quiet and you were zipping
>along at 70 mph and you felt isolated and you could see the occasional farm
>or ranch house or car and just see everything by the light of the stars and
>moon - the experience had to be felt to be believed.  Still nothing better.
>
>At 06:49 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:
> >Okay, been sitting on this question for awhile.  I am not sure how much 
>it
> >would have cost to ride the CZ for the entire trip, I know it would cost
> >more for sleeping accomidations versus coach.
> >
> >Did those that paid for coach just sleep in the seats (like airlines)?
> >
> >Did those that got sleeping car berths simply stay in those rooms the 
>entire
> >trip (except to eat)?
> >
> >How many passengers would typically ride the CZ?
> >
> >How did the railroads split the money up, was it based on ridership,
> >mileage, destinations, etc?
> >
> >Could you ride in the dome the whole time or did people get asked to move 
>so
> >others could get the view?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Rick Keil
> >Ft Campbell, KY
> >
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