Bill, I agree with you - on the other hand, I see what Sunset (and a few
others) have been able to carve out as a niche among scale AND 3 railers in
O "scale" and have been quite successful. Williams has also done quite
well when sticking to prototypical designs. It would seem that after the
Lionel fiasco, MTH would have learned something, but I think they only
learned money talks.
At 09:06 PM 5/28/2005, you wrote:
>Hi Bob,
>
>Thanks for the response. This CZ set is part of MTH's RailKing
>line, which are intended to be semi-scale models that operate on
>traditional tight O-31 curves. For some odd reason, O-gauge
>manufacturers often assume that O-31 operators are not concerned
>with prototypical accuracy for semi-scale models. I would bet that
>the demand for a product would be a bit stronger if they were to
>pint the models in as prototypical a paint scheme as possible. I
>understand a manufacturer using their E3 tooling for a CB&Q Zephyr
>diesel becuase the development of E5 tooling would be too costly
>(only the Q & subs had E5's, too few road names to spread the
>tooling costs over). But it would seem that sticking to the more
>prototypical paint scheme with silver roofs and undersides would be
>just as easy as painting it the incorrect black. As for the cars,
>correct CZ names and silver trucks probably doesn't cost them any
>more than using incorrect names and black trucks. I am at least
>glad that they are offering something in CB&Q.
>
>I used to discuss prototypical CZ paint schemes for Q models with
>the O-gauge manufacturers directly at train shows and via US mail &
>e-mail. In some cases, they folowed the suggestions from me & other
>Q fans which resulted in some very nice models being produced. In
>other cases, our suggestions have been ignored and some bizarre Q
>models have been made. Lately I have not had much free time to
>chase after all the details with manufacturer's offerings.
>
>I basically posted this info so that the CBQlist was aware of this
>CZ RailKing model. Of course, we all decide for ourselves what
>specific models meet our particular needs.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bill
>
>--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, Bob Webber <no17@c...> wrote:
> > It would be nice if MTH actually cracked a book - or took a few
>moments to
> > look on line to name their cars. Why use Silver Coyote (a correct
>name),
> > then use Vista, Mist & Spring none of which are correct? At least
>Falls &
> > Cafe are correct. Silver Blade isn't and didn't exist (but then,
>neither
> > did Silver Mist or Silver Spring - and Silver Vista was a Dome Obs
>for the
> > TZ).
> >
> > If they are going to go to the trouble of calling them CZ cars,
>they could
> > try to get more of the names right - let alone the types. No
>reflection on
> > your note at all - I just don't understand why manufacturers can't
>spend
> > more than a couple of seconds to find this information.
> >
> >
> > At 06:04 PM 5/28/2005, you wrote:
> > >MTH's (Mike's Train House) 2005 V2 catalog recently announced a
>CB&Q
> > >E3 AA set with streamlined passenger cars. Here are he details.
> > >
> > >
> > >The California Zephyr cars have ABS plastic bodies in silver
>fluted
> > >plastic with black trucks (the prototype had silver trucks). The
> > >main 4-car set (MSRP ~ $200)offers baggage car Silver Coyote,
>coach
> > >Silver Spring, vista dome coach Silver Vista, and observtion car
> > >Silver Mist. A sleeper & diner add-on set (MSRP $100) offers
> > >Silver Falls and Silver Cafe, respectively. Also offered are add-
>on
> > >coach Silver Blade (MSRP $50) and full-length vista dome Silver
>Path
> > >(MSRP $55). (Obviously, the CZ did not have any full-length vista
> > >dome cars.).
> > >
> > >MTH also offered Western Pacific Zephyr F3's in the MTH/Premier
>line
> > >which appear to be prototypically decoarated, but did not offer
>any
> > >Premier CZ passenger cars to go with the set.
> > >
> > >Bill
> >
> > Bob Webber
>
>
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Bob Webber
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