I am a member of the group, have a Yahoo membership, can log into the CB&Q
Yahoo site, but I cannot click on the photo section. What am I doing wrong?
Robert Brown
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Diocese of Missouri
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1. Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
From: "trainboy.geo" <tczephyr@hotmail.com>
2. Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
From: "trainboy.geo" <tczephyr@hotmail.com>
3. Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
From: <kohlj@bellsouth.net>
4. Re: Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
From: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@comcast.net>
5. RE: Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
From: "Dave Lotz" <dave_lotz@charter.net>
6. RE: Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
From: "Ray Bedard" <tczephyr@hotmail.com>
7. Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
From: Ken Martin <kmartin@cwia.com>
8. Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
From: "Roy" <roymanning2000@yahoo.com>
9. Re: VO 1000 Stack Picture
From: "trainboy.geo" <tczephyr@hotmail.com>
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:32:45 -0000
From: "trainboy.geo" <tczephyr@hotmail.com>
Subject: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
I was asked to post a photo of my modified 60 foot RPO car, recently
released by Walthers under their Trainline series. Note that I added
ribbing to the "smooth" roof which now makes it correct for the Q. I
also cutout one of the doors to give it the open look and added a
figure in the door opening. I added another US Mail employee inside
sorting the mail.
The Walthers model represents the MA-11 series RPO - numbers 2325 to
2346. This same design was used by several other RR's including the
GN. The model has a lot of nice detail, including an interior with
all the RPO mail slots, etc. The only thing missing are the ribs on
the roof - the model comes with a smooth roof.
I started with an undecorated model. Adding the ribs was simple. I
used Evergreen StripStyrene, size .010 x .020. Using Bill Glick's
passenger car book as a template, I marked the locations for the
ribs and then glued them in place. A little trick on the lower
sections of the roof, I drilled holes into the side of the
clerestory roof very close to the roof line (below the windows),
this held one end of the styrene in place so I could bend it down
and cement it in place.
I purchased a second RPO, factory painted and lettered for the Q. It
has a black smooth roof which I am in the process of adding ribs to.
Now I have been looking at the Trainline RPO and Combine and with
the a little cutting and modifications, appears to me cound
represent class CO-4 #2752 passenger-baggage-mail. I may have to try
my hads at that one!
If you are looking for a good RPO, and don't want to pay the brass
price, I highly recommend this car, this car is a dead ringer for
the Q.
Ray Bedard
San Jose CA
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:35:46 -0000
From: "trainboy.geo" <tczephyr@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
I forgot to tell you. My photo is posted in the "Photos" section of
the CBQYahoo list. If you double click on the photo, you will see a
larger image of it.
Ray Bedard
San Jose CA
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:51:53 -0500
From: <kohlj@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
Full size image posted in the gallery section of BRHS
http://www.burlingtonroute.com/gallery/modelrr/Modified_Walthers_Trainline_RPO_2330_Ray_Bedard
>
> From: "trainboy.geo" <tczephyr@hotmail.com>
> Date: 2005/03/22 Tue PM 02:32:45 EST
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [CBQ] Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
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> I was asked to post a photo of my modified 60 foot RPO car, recently
> released by Walthers under their Trainline series. Note that I added
> ribbing to the "smooth" roof which now makes it correct for the Q. I
> also cutout one of the doors to give it the open look and added a
> figure in the door opening. I added another US Mail employee inside
> sorting the mail.
>
> The Walthers model represents the MA-11 series RPO - numbers 2325 to
> 2346. This same design was used by several other RR's including the
> GN. The model has a lot of nice detail, including an interior with
> all the RPO mail slots, etc. The only thing missing are the ribs on
> the roof - the model comes with a smooth roof.
>
> I started with an undecorated model. Adding the ribs was simple. I
> used Evergreen StripStyrene, size .010 x .020. Using Bill Glick's
> passenger car book as a template, I marked the locations for the
> ribs and then glued them in place. A little trick on the lower
> sections of the roof, I drilled holes into the side of the
> clerestory roof very close to the roof line (below the windows),
> this held one end of the styrene in place so I could bend it down
> and cement it in place.
>
> I purchased a second RPO, factory painted and lettered for the Q. It
> has a black smooth roof which I am in the process of adding ribs to.
>
> Now I have been looking at the Trainline RPO and Combine and with
> the a little cutting and modifications, appears to me cound
> represent class CO-4 #2752 passenger-baggage-mail. I may have to try
> my hads at that one!
>
> If you are looking for a good RPO, and don't want to pay the brass
> price, I highly recommend this car, this car is a dead ringer for
> the Q.
>
> Ray Bedard
> San Jose CA
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:47:18 -0600
From: "Charlie Vlk" <cvlk@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
Ray-
Nice job. Makes us N Scalers jealous.
Charlie Vlk
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:10:50 -0600
From: "Dave Lotz" <dave_lotz@charter.net>
Subject: RE: Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
Ray,
Your RPO looks great! What did you use for the roof ribs?
BTW - that's sure a nice looking EA unit in front of the RPO also! <ggg>
Dave Lotz
St. Louis
-----Original Message-----
From: trainboy.geo [mailto:tczephyr@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:36 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
I forgot to tell you. My photo is posted in the "Photos" section of
the CBQYahoo list. If you double click on the photo, you will see a
larger image of it.
Ray Bedard
San Jose CA
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:59:37 -0800
From: "Ray Bedard" <tczephyr@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
Dave and others,
Thanks for your kind comments about my RPO.
I started with an undecorated model. Adding the ribs was simple. I used
Evergreen StripStyrene, size .010 x .020. Refering to Bill Glick's passenger
car book as a template, I marked the locations for the ribs and then glued
them in place. Cut the ribs longer than the roof line, about 1/4 inch. I
then used Plastruct cement on the rib, and with 2 tweezers, placed the rib
on the roof line, holding in place until dried, 10 to 15 seconds.
A little trick on the lower sections of the roof, I drilled holes into the
side of the
clerestory roof very close to the roof line (below the windows),
this held one end of the styrene in place so I could bend it down
and cement the rib it in place. I used the smallest drill bit I could, I
think it was a #77 or #76.
Again, cut the ribs about 1/4 inch longer, then push one end of the rib into
the hole, glued it from the inside of the roof. I then glued the rest of
the rib to the roof with Plastruct solvent. The extra length allowed me to
hold the rib in place with tweesters until it dired. I then trimmed the the
ribs after they set up for at least an hour.
One other thing, I did NOT use the Walthers mail catchers. I used Cal-Scale
as I think they look much better and are not oversized.
The EA unit is "Pegasus" by Railway Classics and is a real beauty. The coach
behind the RPO is one of 5 Athearn cars I modified into an articulated
Zephyr. It is a "free lanced" articualted Zephyr, gives me the feeling of
what the Q may have had. Until someone comes out with the TCZ in plastic,
this will have to do. I just can not justify paying hundreds of dollars for
a single car or a thousand dollars for a complete set. However, I do admit
that the new imports are fantastic, I just can not afford 'em.
Anyway, model railroading is a fun hobby for me and if I can capture the
feeling of my favorite railroad, then I'm having fun.
Ray Bedard
San Jose CA
>From: "Dave Lotz" <dave_lotz@charter.net>
>Reply-To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
>Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:10:50 -0600
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>Ray,
>
>Your RPO looks great! What did you use for the roof ribs?
>
>BTW - that's sure a nice looking EA unit in front of the RPO also! <ggg>
>
>Dave Lotz
>St. Louis
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:36 PM
>To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [CBQ] Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
>
>
>I forgot to tell you. My photo is posted in the "Photos" section of
>the CBQYahoo list. If you double click on the photo, you will see a
>larger image of it.
>
>Ray Bedard
>San Jose CA
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 23:17:59 -0800
From: Ken Martin <kmartin@cwia.com>
Subject: Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
Ray,
It looks nice but where's the shadow fluting? 8^)
Ken Martin
trainboy.geo wrote:
>
> I was asked to post a photo of my modified 60 foot RPO car, recently
> released by Walthers under their Trainline series.
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:36:01 -0000
From: "Roy" <roymanning2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Modified 60ft RPO by Walthers/Trainline
Ray,
A great job on the RPO. Thanks for posting the details. It sounds
like something I'm going to have to try. The open door is a nice
touch.
Roy
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "trainboy.geo" <tczephyr@h...> wrote:
>
> I was asked to post a photo of my modified 60 foot RPO car,
recently
> released by Walthers under their Trainline series. Note that I
added
> ribbing to the "smooth" roof which now makes it correct for the Q.
I
> also cutout one of the doors to give it the open look and added a
> figure in the door opening. I added another US Mail employee inside
> sorting the mail.
>
> The Walthers model represents the MA-11 series RPO - numbers 2325
to
> 2346. This same design was used by several other RR's including
the
> GN. The model has a lot of nice detail, including an interior with
> all the RPO mail slots, etc. The only thing missing are the ribs on
> the roof - the model comes with a smooth roof.
>
> I started with an undecorated model. Adding the ribs was simple. I
> used Evergreen StripStyrene, size .010 x .020. Using Bill Glick's
> passenger car book as a template, I marked the locations for the
> ribs and then glued them in place. A little trick on the lower
> sections of the roof, I drilled holes into the side of the
> clerestory roof very close to the roof line (below the windows),
> this held one end of the styrene in place so I could bend it down
> and cement it in place.
>
> I purchased a second RPO, factory painted and lettered for the Q.
It
> has a black smooth roof which I am in the process of adding ribs to.
>
> Now I have been looking at the Trainline RPO and Combine and with
> the a little cutting and modifications, appears to me cound
> represent class CO-4 #2752 passenger-baggage-mail. I may have to
try
> my hads at that one!
>
> If you are looking for a good RPO, and don't want to pay the brass
> price, I highly recommend this car, this car is a dead ringer for
> the Q.
>
> Ray Bedard
> San Jose CA
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:49:43 -0000
From: "trainboy.geo" <tczephyr@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: VO 1000 Stack Picture
I have a couple of shots of 9351 taken from an overhead bridge that
shows the stacks offset. Steve, if you would like, I can email the
photos to you.
I have a qeustion, though. I also have photos of 9373 and it does
NOT have any stacks. Why?
Ray Bedard
San Jose CA
> Hi,
> Could anyone point me to any high-angle photo or drawing which
shows the usual placement of the 4 exhaust stacks on the Baldwin VO-
1000? I know they are offset to the side, but are they built into
the roof hatches or are they just off to the side of the hatches to
allow their opening?
> Thanks in advance.
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> Twin Cities
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