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Subject: [CBQ] CB&Q NE12a Way Car
From: "dmesd40qes" <briney@spe.midco.net>
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2005 16:36:53 -0000
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Hello all,
I am hoping some of you might be able to help me out a bit. I have 
found a retired CB&Q NE12a Way Car for sale, but the car has been 
partially stripped and is in need of a major renovation.

A bit of background is in order on this. My dad was a traveling 
equipment operator on the CB&Q. He started in 1953 and retired from 
the BN in 1985. In the "old days" the CB&Q assigned bunk cars to 
many of the equipment operators and families were allowed to stay in 
them also. I spent many of my youngest childhood years growing up in 
our bunkcar (along with my six brothers and sisters) which was built 
from a 40' wood outside braced boxcar. Dad always said he wanted to 
buy his bunkcar when it was retired, however it was scrapped before 
he had the chance. Afterward he had often talked of buying a way car 
to put on the home place but the financial strain of raising seven 
kids never allowed that. Dad passed away in 1998.

Now that I have found this car, I feel I have the opportunity to 
fulfill my dad's unrealized dream. My intent would be to restore 
this car to the original condition it was in when in use on the 
CB&Q, and most likely to donate it to a museum (in my dad's name)
upon my ultimate demise. The car is stripped beyond what I would 
normally consider tackling but it appeals to me for a few other 
reasons, the car was built in 1959 (at least as indicated on the 
consolidated stencil) that is the year I was born, it was built in 
the Havelock shops in my birthplace city of Lincoln, Nebraska; it is 
very possible that it was on the erecting floor the day I was born.

Structurally, the car is sound, the cushion unit is out but for 
display it isn't a problem. If the car would go to an operating 
museum this would need to be looked at but I'm not considering this 
to be a problem now. The main problem with the car is the interior 
is stripped. The previous owner removed everything from the cupola 
forward, including the stove, fuel oil tank, conductors desk, and 
bunks. The cupola is complete on one side but on the other, all of 
the lockers that support the cupola seat have been removed. 
Unfortunately all items removed went right to the dump about five 
years ago.

My questions for you are to do mainly with aquiring the needed parts 
to restore the interior. I can have the sheet steel for the lockers 
fabricated in a steel shop. The doors might present more of a 
problem, the latches seem to be a unique design, I have noticed that 
some other way cars or cabooses use the same latches, are they 
available somewhere or are there used items available? Also does 
anyone know where any of the other parts might be available? I think 
that with some good drawings I can build or have built many of the 
easier items such as he bunks and the conductors desk. I would need 
to find the proper stove.

Does anyone know of any specific drawings, or even photos of the 
interiors of these cars? I know there are a few of these cars in 
captivity, I'm not sure how many are complete. I plan to visit a few 
to get measurements and photos. Unfortunately that takes time and I 
don't have much of that.

The current owner has offered me what I consider to be a great deal, 
but it has a very short window of opportunity. He also wants to see 
the car restored but, if I do not take it, the car will become a 
cabin on a lake.

Any help anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated. The 
restoration will be paid for out of my pocket and will probably take 
10 years or more. I just want to make sure this is a viable project 
before I commit to it. I don't want to find that interior materials 
are so hard to find that I give up the project and turn it into a 
cabin myself.

Thanks in advance for any information you might have.

Rick Briney
Sturgis, SD
Proud son of a Burlington Man





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