IAAP at Dayman use to make 105mm rounds both dummy for salutes and live
rounds. We use to get box cars that would run from Dayman to Savanna to be
proved. Test fired. The box cars would have to be very tight. No leaks of
water to keep the power dry. In 1982 to celebrate the 50th year in
production they held an open house. They gave train rides around the place
as there was a complete circle using BN business cars pulled by the little
Baldwin RS4TC
One requirement was to try and have two rail lines in each arsenal or Depot
so the best route and or rate could be used
Don't forget Green River Ord. Wks. at Amboy on the Earlville to Rock Falls
line.
Gerald I will take the job of compiling the facts and add it to my list of
subjects to look up
sjh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Craven" <scraven@avalon.net>
To: <CBQ@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 8:50 PM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] USA boxes
>
> There were several Military Ordinance Facilities served by the CB&Q. The
> Iowa Army Ammunition Plant at Dayman has been mentioned as well as Savanna
> Army Ammunition Depot north of Savanna Ill. We shouldn't forget Lines
> West
> either. There was a small ammunition plant east of Wahoo NE that I
> believe
> was served by a now abandoned CB&Q branch. The Cornhusker Army Ammunition
> Plant was just west of Lincoln NE. There was a large Naval Ammunition
> Depot east of Hastings NE. The Rocky Mountain Arsenal used to be just
> northeast of Denver. All the facilities in NE and CO were served by both
> the UP and CB&Q. ( For those concerned about homeland security all these
> sites other that he Iowa Army Ammunition plant are no longer used by the
> military.)
>
> If you are not familiar with them these facilities are large 1000+ sites
> that had many miles of railroad serving them. Ordinance is heavy, and
> dispersed storage for the finished product and component parts is
> desirable
> for safety reasons. Up until the '50s or '60s rail was the preferred
> method to move material around these large sites. Most of the sites would
> have 2 to 6 Department of Defense locomotives, and small fleet of boxcars
> and other equipment.
>
> I have no first hand information, but I guess that these box cars were
> leased by the CB&Q to as a convenient way to allow them into interchange
> service. There may have been a shortage of cars to haul ammunition, or
> they may have had special equipment to haul particular items. I doubt
> that
> they were released for general service. Normally such information is
> listed in the ORER, but in this case they may have chosen not to publish
> the
> information.
>
> Stephen Craven
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rupert and Maureen [mailto:gamlenz@ihug.co.nz]
> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 7:06 PM
> To: CBQ@YahooGroups.com
> Subject: [CBQ] USA boxes
>
>
> Following a discussion with one of its members, I raised the following
> query
> on the Steam Freight Car List -
>
> "For about 12 months during 1947 and 1948, there were 40 boxcars on the
> CB&Q
> numbered 24167 - 24210 (excluding four numbers) but with "USA" reporting
> marks.
> The cars are listed with an inside length of 36' 6", width of 8' 6",
> height
> of 7' 10" and a capacity of 2432 cu. ft.
> They are shown as being operated under lease by the Q and are not included
> in the total of freight car ownership. These reporting marks don't seem
> to
> appear in the ORER's for this period."
>
> The response was that these cars were owned by the U. S. Army. USA
> reporting marks were used on cars in captive service on military bases
> and,
> as these cars were not used in interchange, they did not appear in the War
> Department listings in the
> ORERs.
>
> Which left open the question of "Why were they leased?" It has been
> suggested by Rob Adams that they might have been assigned to the Iowa
> Ordinance Plant at Dayman, IA, near Burlington. Can anyone confirm this or
> offer other suggestions? As they were listed on the ORER, would that
> indicate that they were available for general usage rather than solely for
> military loads?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rupert Gamlen
> Auckland NZ
>
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