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Subject: [CBQ] 1941 tours
From: Q5632west@aol.com
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:26:54 EDT
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Greetings listees:

I'm helping my father gather data to go with his reminiscences of working for 
Burlington Escorted Tours in the summer of 1941.  I have the appropriate 
brochure listing all the tours that summer but am lacking some general and 
timetable information.  The questions at this point are:

1.  Did tours have their own tourist sleepers?  Possibly so, but were they 
different from regular Pullmans?  The brochure generally references berths in 
Pullmans and Tourist Pullmans with some of the longer and pricier tours listing 
compartments and drawing rooms.  I note Bulletin No. 42 Exposition Flyer page 
98 references "special tourist Pullmans" for a Feb.-March 1941 ski trip to 
Colorado.  The same page references regular and escorted tours in the first two 
sections of the first-ever three-section train with all-Diesel power but 
doesn't specify the cars.

2.  How did Yellowstone tourist cars get to/from Cody off the Denver-Billings 
line?

3.  I'd like to identify the trains his tours might have used:

Black Hills and Yellowstone

Leave Chicago 12:35 p.m. via Omaha and Lincoln, arrive Newcastle Wyoming 2:30 
p.m. next day.  Leave Newcastle 2:30 p.m. Friday, arrive Gardiner, Wyoming, 
10:30 a.m. next day on Northern Pacific.  Return via Cody, Wyoming, depart 7:45 
a.m. Tuesday to Billings and Northern Pacific arrive Chicago 8:45 a.m. 
Tuesday.

Black Hills

Similar to above except depart Newcastle 3:30 p.m. heading back to 
Lincoln/Omaha, arrive Chicago 7:55 p.m. Sunday.

Denver, Colorado Springs, Rocky Mountain National Park

Depart Chicago 12:35 p.m. (Exposition Flyer), arrive Denver 8:20 a.m., quick 
transfer to DRGW arrive Colorado Springs 10:40 a.m.  Leave Denver 8:00 p.m., 
arrive Chicago 7:55 p.m.

Some tours (not necessarily his) clearly used the Empire Builder and North 
Coast Limited to access Glacier and Yellowstone.  Tourists from St. Louis 
either 
went to Chicago (dep. St. Louis 2:45 p.m., your choice of 4:25 or 4:30 p.m.  
Return 1:20 p.m., 5:10 p.m., 9:20 p.m., 9:55 p.m.) or went via Kansas City to 
Lincoln on through Pullmans departing at 2:45 p.m. (General Pershing Zephyr?)

I'll try to hunt up the appropriate timetables next time I get to a show or 
feel flush enough to resume trolling eBay.  Until the, any help appreciated.

Regards,

Bill Diven


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