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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Broadway Limited 2-8-2
From: "bigbearoak" <jonathanharris@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:08:13 -0000
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Hi Rick --

As a wheel arrangement, the 2-8-2 was THE general-purpose 
freight engine on the Burlington (i.e., used in both through and 
way freight service). Also the most numerous. The CB&Q, C&S 
and FW&D together had more than 500 in service.

The 0-1s were the earliest and most common of the Burlington's 
mikes and were to be found all over the system. They were light 
enough for some branch-line work, and many also ended up in 
switching and transfer service. Very occasionally, you would even 
see one as a substitute passenger engine. 

The bigger, beefier O-2s and O-3s were mainline drag-freight 
engines, too heavy for much branchline track, and too slow for 
manifest freight work. 

The O-4s -- which is what Broadway Ltd. is importing -- were the 
smallest class (only 20 engines -- 15 for the CB&Q, 5 for the 
FW&D). They were standard USRA-design heavy freight engines. 
They started out on the Lines East, many in the coal fields of 
southern Illinois, where they proved too slippery for moving heavy 
coal drags, and by the end of the 1920s the entire class had 
been sent west to work on the Sheridan, Casper, and Alliance 
divisions, for which the whole lot of them were converted to burn 
oil. They seem to have been pretty successful out west, working 
mostly in mainline freight service. A good number of them were 
leased to the C&S and FW&D (which, as noted, had 5 of its own), 
and a half-dozen actually were bought outright by the C&S from 
the parent company in the late 1950s and re-lettered and 
re-numbered for the C&S. On the two subsidiary roads, they 
lasted until (almost) 1960 and were indeed some of the last 
steam engines operated on the Burlington system. I don't know 
about their doing any passenger service, but it's possible 
(though certainly rare). But they did almost everything else. From 
your point of view, what's nice is that you can use them plausibly 
in the company of your first-generation diesels -- as a switcher or 
transfer engine, as a helper or double-headed with an SD-9 in 
mainline service, or as an independent part of your 
general-service pool. They even got out onto some branch line 
trackage (e.g., for the sugar beet harvest). 

The only caveats, if you're a stickler for "authenticity," are that
-- at 
least after about 1930 -- (1) these were exclusively Lines West 
engines; (2) they were oil burners; and (3) the CB&Q engines all 
had feedwater heating systems (the FW&D engines didn't, 
though). I can't be sure, but my impression is that Broadway is 
importing them more-or-less "as built" (i.e., as coal burners with 
only injectors), so you may need to invest a little time in updating 
them. Other than that, they look like thoroughly neat models.

Good luck to you in Iraq. I hope you are home soon.
Jonathan

>
>All, greetings from northern Iraq. In anticipaton of getting a 
Broadway
>Limited 2-8-2 for a (late) Christmas present, how were the 
2-8-2s used by
>the Q? I normally model the various diesels but have decided to 
branch out
>a bit. Did the Q ever use this engine type for passenger 
operations as it
>might look nice with the new Branchline heavyweight cars. 
Thanks and Happy
>New Year.
>
>Rick Keil
>
>


 

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