Val,
It was the "Illinois Traction System". During the late 20's with passenger
revenues already declining they had the foresight to buy up a number of
switching railroads in the East St Louis area, one of which was the
"Illinois Terminal Railroad". When the whole company was reorganized
in 1937 they used that name.
Railroads acquired:
01-Jul-25 St Louis Troy and Eastern RR, (Steam, East St Louis to Troy)
01-Jul-25 St Louis and Illinois Belt RR, (Steam, Edwardsville to Troy Jct)
01-Jan-28 Illinois Terminal RR, (Steam, Edwardsville to Alton)
At the same time a portion of the recently abandoned East St Louis and
Suburban Electric (Electric, converted to steam, O'Fallon to Edgemore)
01-Jan-30 Alton and Eastern RR (Steam, Grafton to Alton to East St Louis)
The above line was part of the abandoned Chicago Peoria and St Louis.
As is with the CB&Q history there were complicated ownerships and leases
involved in all those transactions but the end result was a strong freight
base in the area to the North of East St Louis.
The book "The Lincoln Land Traction" covers all this stuff in detail
although it does not contain either a steam or diesel roster.
When the Florida East Coast defaulted on some of it's equipment trusts
in the late 20's most Railfans know about the 4-8-2's that were scattered
all over North America. Illinois Traction/Illinois Terminal was also able
to cash in on their misfortune and got 5 or 6 almost brand new 0-8-0's.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Val Nelson" <super-chief-val@c...>
To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, 09 March, 2003 14:15
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] Digest Number 1620
> I don't think IT stands for "Illinois Traction". I believe it's "Illinois
> Terminal". There is also an "Iowa Terminal", but I seriously doubt they had
> any such equipment. lol -Val
>
> William Barber wrote:
>
> > My guess would be Wabash. Q's 4-8-4s were all numbered 5600 - 5635, IC
> > never had a 4-8-4 that I know of and Illinois Traction was an
> > interurban electric RR which had no steam locomotives. I can't remember
> > what Wabash numbered their 4-8-4s. BTW, the earliest 4-8-4s were
> > delivered to Northern Pacific in 1926, I believe. That would make the
> > oldest one about 77 years ago.
> >
> > Bill Barber
> >
> > On Saturday, March 8, 2003, at 01:28 PM, BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 11:02:23 -0600
> > > From: Scott Millick <smillick@w...>
> > > Subject: engines
> > >
> > > Is there anywhere that there is a record of the steam engine numbers
> > > I am
> > > going through some old photos that are 80 years old or so my
> > > grandfather
> > > took. I have a pix of a 4-8-4 steamer number 6117 but no other id on
> > > it.
> > > It could be an IC , Wabash CB&Q or Illinois Traction as that is what
> > > was in
> > > the area of Hamel. Staunton or Litchfield, Illinois Ideas to see what
> > > line
> > > it was?
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