I am still active duty and this does seem a bit strange to me. Since all
these lists are Yahoo, can we send a message to Yahoo to report this
activity. They should ben able to 1) see how many other lists he asked this
question on, and 2) send the pertinent info to the Federal agencies. I
would be more than happy to send the question, but you may have better
knowledge since you noticed it.
Rick
Omaha, NE
From: "Thomas Kaufman <elmer53@y...>" <elmer53@y...>
Reply-To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [BRHSlist] Read and Heed!!!! Our Countrie's future depends on it.
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 17:29:02 -0000
-- Thomas Kaufman <elmer53@y...> wrote:
>
> --- Chris Guss <cmguss@a...> wrote:
> > Although I'm not a paranoid type of guy, a rather odd request
recently
> > caught my eye that was posted to two lists in which I'm a member
of
> (The
> > StLouisRailfans and IlliniRail lists) from the same mystery
person.
> Here
> > is
> > the e-mail from the IlliniRail list from February 5th:
> >
> >
> > ---------------------
> > From: "demons1984 <tscot@c...>" <tscot@c...>
> > Date: Wed Feb 5, 2003 4:00 pm
> > Subject: train symbol questions?
> >
> >
> > Does anybody know the train symbols for the
> > yard & transfer jobs,used by BNSF,CSX,
> > NS & UP,in Chicago?
> > ---------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > And here is the request posted to the St. Louis list just today:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: demons1984 <tscot@c...>
> > > [mailto:tscot@c...]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:13 PM
> > > To: StLouisRailfans@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [StLouisRailfans] Train Symbols
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,I'm new to this group. I was wondering
> > > if anybody knew the train symbols the BNSF,UP
> > > & NS,use for their yard jobs & transfers in
> > > St.Louis?
> > >
> > > Also,what are the names of the railyards used
> > > by the railroads above,& what are their
> > > locations? Thank You
> >
> >
> >
> > And, out of curiosity I joined the Kansascityrailfans list on
Yahoo to
> > see
> > if demons1984 was three for three on requesting the same
information
> on
> > the
> > three major rail hubs in the United States and guess what, I was
> > right!!!
> > Here is his post to the Kansas City list from this morning:
> >
> > -----------------------
> > From: "demons1984 <tscot@c...>" <tscot@c...>
> > Date: Mon Feb 17, 2003 9:30 am
> > Subject: Train Symbols
> >
> >
> > Hi I'm new to this group and wonder if
> > anybody knows the train symbols BNSF,UP
> > KCS & NS use for the yard jobs & transfers
> > in KC?
> >
> > Also what are the names of the railyards
> > used by the railroads above,& where are they
> > located? Thank you
> > ------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > The first thing that caught my eye was that the person did not
sign
> > their
> > name to the e-mails (a pet-peeve of mine). The second thing is
that he
> > made
> > the same rather strange request for a large amount of general
> > information on
> > several railroads.
> >
> > Either "demonds1984" has just become a railfan and/or has alot of
> > catching
> > up to do in his quest to chase yard jobs and transfers, or there
is
> > something else going on here. Perhaps an e-mail
from "demonds1984" to
> > these
> > three lists explaining his large request for info would help
explain
> my
> > curiosity regarding the matter.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Chris Guss
> >
> >
> > The Home Page for the St.Louis Area Railfans List is at:
> > www.yahoogroups.com/group/StLouisRailfans/
> >
> > St.Louis The Gateway To The West
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > StLouisRailfans-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> > Chris:
>
> This is a WARNING to any unsuspecting railfan on any railfan site!
> Remember our country is in high terrorist alert status at the
moment,
> and
> there are known terrorist cells operating in this country. I am ex
> military and a ex railroader and railfan, and I also know railfans
of
> any
> type are really being scrutinized in their activities, lately. After
> 09/11/2001, the terrorists had threatened transportation and water
ways
> sites, and specifically targeted railroads. If you do not
specifically
> know the person you are dealing with, no news is good news. There
is no
> reason for anyone to have to know specific locations of yards and
> terminals in the midwest. Anyhow, if they did have the information,
both
> railroad and local law enforcement wouldn't let him/her get near any
> locations. Let's play it smart and dry up any possible giving away
> sensitive information that could harm our tense association with the
> railroads, because if it could be proven that a railfan gave any
> information that ended up being used in a terrorist attack, we will
> never
> get an opportunity to photograph, and or get to talk to friendly
> railroaders ever again. Take a moment and consider the final
outcome! I
> don't want to add to the paronoia, but this seems to be a serious
breach
> of information with possibly serious consequences.
> elmer
>
>
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