The Ownership, Age & Condition for January 1, 1966 does not give any more
information than has been supplied below. However, not only the Q got the
cars....all are listed as 56 Seat Coaches, not chair cars, so if the
designation is consistant they should all be the same floor plan?
The cars did not share construction features one normally associates with UP
cars (rivited roof and external electrical busway down the center) and AFAIK
they were built to 400 standards and were primarily intended for 400
service, although some did get painted in the Streamliner colors for a time.
Charlie
56 Seat Coaches from C&NW for "Hill" Roads:
CB&Q #4650-4657 Silver paint scheme
GN #1076-1099 Empire Builder paint scheme
NP #518-526 Lowey paint scheme
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From: <rgp21@p...>
To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:59 AM
Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: C&NW/CB&Q Passenger Equipment
> According to the Morning Sun Color Guide, CB&Q purchased 8 CNW chair
> cars between November 1963 and August 1964. CBQ renumbered the 8 cars
> to #4650-4657 upon purchase.
>
> The CNW cars were built by Pullman-Standard, probably from the CNW
> 3400 series since the photo in the above book does not show a
> stewardess room window, for "400" service, as the Streamliner cars
> had similar construction features as found on the UP cars. The cars
> were re-built in 1958, when the side skirts were removed and
> renumbered into the CNW 800 series. The Twin Cities 400 ceased
> operating in 1963, never converting to bi-level cars like the
> Flambeau 400. It usually had 4 or 5 of these coaches in its consist
> and thus became surplus. I haven't been able to determine the
> disposition of these cars.
>
> Bob Pilk
>
> --- In BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com, Don L Zinnecker <dzinnecker@j...>
> wrote:
> > Listers: Can anyone provide Gerald with the answers he seeks?
> Thanks,
> > Don
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Jan 2003 19:55:36 EST GeraldWalterK@a... writes:
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > The CB&Q acquire some C&NW passenger cars (definately Pullman
> built,
> > > maybe
> > > other stuff as well?). Is there a list out there detailing what
> was
> > > bought
> > > and the CB&Q numbers. Do any of these still exist?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gerald W. Kopiasz
>
>
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