A 6-December-42 timetable shows #21 at St Paul at 3:15 p.m.
Some interesting scheduling. At East Dubuque it is 40 mph
from the depot across the IC diamond and over the East end
of the CB&Q center siding, then 70 mph until clear of the West
end of the center siding. Speed then goes up to 95 mph with
60 mph over the CMStP&P diamond at Crawford and 20 mph
from 239.00 to the Prairie Du Chien depot at 239.66.
Scheduled stop to stop is 39" for 54.61 miles which is a
scheduled 84 mph. Why is that interesting? At least half
of that distance is around curves at the bottom of bluffs.
This is still rather rugged and isolated territory. Don't know
how much slide fence was in place at that time but that's
awfully fast to be going around blind curves on faith.
The usual caution is there that the Zephyr type motor trains
have to slow to 60 mph to pick up orders. I have hooped up
orders to uncounted freight trains going 60 but there you
only need two sets and there was always plenty of time
between head end and rear end. A passenger train would
require 3 sets, (one for the flagman), and those trains were
very short. On the occasions that I had to give orders to
Amtrak they would slow down to about 25 and were longer
trains but you still needed a couple of extra arms to juggle
3 hoops. With passenger trains there is also the problem
of not knowing which car the Conductor will be in.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Nauer" <scott@n...>
To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 09 September, 2002 18:45
Subject: Re: [BRHSlist] timetable for Twin Cities Zephyr
> On Mon, Sep 09, 2002 at 03:47:09PM -0500, Bill Hirt wrote:
> > Jeff Crump wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Does anyone out there have an early 1934-40 timetable for the Twin
Cities
> > > Zephyr?
> > >
> > > Several articles I have read mention times for the TCZ run at under
six
> > > hours--yet my 1952 timetable shows a time of 6:15 between Chicago and
St.
> > > Paul.
> > >
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > The Oct-Dec 1940 passenger timetable shows No. 21 Morning Twin Zephyr
> > leaving Chicago at 9:00 am and arriving St. Paul 3:00 pm. The remainder
> > of the runs were 6 hours and 15 minutes.
> >
> > Bill
> >
>
> Both the Oct-Dec 1936 and June-Sep 1938 timetables show:
>
> Trains 21/22 with an 8:00am departure and a 3:00pm arrival
> Trains 23/24 have a 4:00pm departure and a 10:59pm arrival
>
> scott
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