On the Denver Zephyr, the RPO mail car operated behind one or several baggage
cars
Denver Zephyr Consists as I remember them
1956 thru 1961
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baggage
mail
coaches (summer and christmas)
dome lounge-coach (sometimes summer)
coaches
dome coach
coaches
slumbercoach (summer and christmas in later years)
colo spgs coach
dome dormitory chuckwagon (operated to colo spgs)
colo sprgs slumbercoach
colo sprgs 10-6 sleeper
diner
sleepers
dome parlor-lounge obs
1962 - late summer 1965
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baggage
mail
coaches (summer and christmas)
dome lounge-coach (sometimes summer)
coaches
slumbercoach (summer and christmas)
dome dormitory chuckwagon
colo sprgs dome coach
colo sprgs slumbercoach
colo sprgs 10-6 sleeper
diner
sleepers
dome parlor-lounge obs
Late summer 1965 to summer 1967
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baggage
mail
coaches
dome dormitory chuckwagon
dome coach (operated colo sprgs until 1/1/67)
slumbercoach(operated colo sprgs until 1/1/67)
10-6 sleeper(operated colo sprgs until 1/1/67)
diner
slumbercoach (summer and christmas)
sleepers
dome parlor-lounge obs
Summer 1967 until Fall 1968
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baggage
mail (dropped sometime in fall of 1967)
Various cars to provide a lounge and a dome during summer and christmas
coach(s)
dome coach
coach(s)
dome dormitory chuckwagon
diner
10-6 sleeper
slumbercoach(s)
sleepers
dome parlor-lounge obs
Fall 1968 until about 1971
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Baggage
coach(s)
dome coach
coaches in times of peak demand
snack bar coach (off season)
dome-dormitory chuckwagon (summer and holidays)
diner
dome parlor lounge obs (moved to end of train during summer and holidays)
sleeper(s)
slumbercoach(s)
Spring 1971
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baggage
coach
dome coach
coach
diner
dome parlor-lounge obs
slumbercoach
sleeper
I realize this is oversimplified. I welcome any corrections or additions.
sjl
Stephen and Linda Levine
steveandlindaare@h...
If trains were just for kids...we wouldn't wanna grow up!
----- Original Message -----
From: jd
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 4:05 PM
Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: Help with N-Scale Kato Q Passenger cars.
> I am trying to find a number of posts from last year on the correct
> order of a consist using all 12 of the Kato N Scale CB&Q passenger
> cars
Bill,
I know there are others out there who can speak to this better than I; but
in general, my understanding of the passenger practices for most roads is as
follows:
1) RPO - typically first in the consist (unless perhaps a storage mail car
preceeds it). As I understand it, postal security tended to dictate that
the mail cars be separated from the rest of the train with locked doors.
2) Baggage
3) coaches with higher numbers of seating
4) overnight coaches and/or dome coaches
5) slumber coach (for those roads that used them)
6) diner
7) sleeping cars
8) observation
I'm sure individual railroad practices tended to difer, and there are some
tendancies regarding which ways the vestibules faced, etc., but hopefully
this will provide a starting point. I've been told that the diner's tended
to run kitchen first so that first class passengers from the sleeping cars
didn't have to walk past the kitchen. In almost all cases, the general
pattern was a) head end equipment (RPO, storage mail, baggage), b) coaches,
c) diner, e) pullman cars and f) observation.
I wish I knew more about CB&Q practices, so hopefully others will add
additional info!
Hope that helps,
Jack
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