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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Military Loads
From: "Steven Holding via groups.io" <sholding=sbcglobal.net@groups.io>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2025 02:18:40 +0000 (UTC)
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Been too long ago now to remember the flats used.  
Working the Ottumwa Div. position would get loads out of Dayman (IAAP) and direct to Savanna for storage.  Most often they were in MOP Cars as they had to be weatherproof.  Might have been loads out of Savanna, Ok. to IAAP at Dayman use as reload of empties for Savanna, Ill. 
A lot of storage in later years was raw material that was had to find for use in weapon manufacturing stored just in case.  Often into or out of H-Area which was off the Westbound Main at Savanna.  Generally just a set out or pick up as interplant switching was done by engines there.  Same with Green River, Dayman and Savanna.
Steve in SC

On Thursday, December 4, 2025 at 09:27:34 AM EST, Leo Phillipp via groups.io <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


It’s been 45-53 years since i worked on the C&I so my memory may have some fogginess. But i do recall occasional loads of military equipment towards the rear of trains like 353/364, extra east,181,etc coming and going in both directions into and out of Savanna yard. My understanding was they were from and into the Savanna Proving grounds/depot. Yes i know the facility was ordinance based but these were military vehicles on regular Q and other flat cars.
According to AI the depot was primarily used for storage starting in 1962.

Leo Phillipp

On Dec 2, 2025, at 9:41 PM, Laddie via groups.io <laddie_vitek=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

 Steve,
Where in the train were they placed? Did the pair travel on a 6 axle dodx flat car every time?
Thanks, Laddie

On Dec 2, 2025, at 9:18 PM, Steven Holding via groups.io <sholding=sbcglobal.net@groups.io> wrote:


Ricky 
A Lot of Tanks went from the Lima Tank Arsenal via BN over the C&I headed to PNW for proofing before entering service.  At least 2 a week.  As they were heavy wide loads they had wide load files sent to the DS office so it was no trouble watching them.
Worked in DS office for 35 years,  Cicero, Galesburg and then the "Nest of Confusion"
Steve in SC

On Tuesday, December 2, 2025 at 07:02:21 PM EST, Rick Keil via groups.io <rkeil6721=hotmail.com@groups.io> wrote:


I see Rapido is releasing M60 tanks which would be perfect for the 1970s.

Did the Q handle much military traffic. I read one story about military loads on the KC to Council Bluffs line, but was wondering if there are other instances.

Thanks

Ricky Keil
St Louis, MO

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