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Leo:
Odd, that the 1880s-90s orders are on blank sheets, as the B&MR in Nebraska was certainly using printed sheets at that period. See attached.
Hol
From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Leo Phillipp via groups.io <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2023 8:10 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] BURLINGTON TRAIN ORDER FORM 19
Steve,
I was going through train orders tonight I purchased from the Wade Gorman estate many years ago. Mostly C & I orders for places long gone like Daggets, etc. they are from the mid 30s and all form 19s and all green.
However there’s some real gems from 1885,1889,1890s etc. These are faded yellows but…..
There’s no printing at all. No RR identification, form,etc. nothing, just blank but they are tissues and were yellow. At least one of them I believe is a 31 as it is signed by the engineer who is instructed to run “wild”(extra) Aurora to Ottawa
via Earl and Sheridan Jct. So we know it’s Q.
Another raises questions in my mind. It’s from the 19 teens and is issued at La Crosse to a train at Savanna. Engineer Yaeckley will run Savanna to Fulton. Again it’s just plain yellow tissue with no printing whatsoever but has the usual DS info.
and OK times.
I have a much bigger bunch that I’ll go through looking for Mendota specific items.
Leo
On Oct 6, 2023, at 9:18 PM, Steven Holding <sholding@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Ed
YES However I have not found when the color paper went from Yellow to Green.
I do have some filled out ones from a different road with Yellow for a Form 31 and Green for a 19
Like most things I just stumble over facts and put them away for a rainy day
Steve in SC
On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 09:56:37 AM EDT, Ed Pavlovic <cbq168a@comcast.net> wrote:
Steve,
Did the Burlington use different color paper on the Form 19 train order forms?? If I remember from your clinic at the Spring Meet in Peoria, the images of train orders were on green paper but I did come across a Form 19 on yellow paper, was there a change
over time?
(I’d have to dig it out to check the date, but it might have been older stock at an office.)
Ed Pavlovic
On Oct 5, 2023, at 10:07 PM, Steven Holding <sholding@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
When I worked Aurora Tower the last 7 months of 1973 we still used the old Burlington Lines forms. BN followed the CB&Q management and did not throw out the old BR forms but used up the old stock before reprinting them
The BNSF Merger every thing changed the next day
Steve in SC
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