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Re: [CBQ] AI Photo of the Pioneer Zephyr???

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] AI Photo of the Pioneer Zephyr???
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Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2026 17:53:07 -0700
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My experience with Jay_Cee_Cor is all very positive.
 
I saw the above "PZ" photo & immediately recognized it as an AI-Fantasy product.  Although I am not interested in that one, I have no issue with him offering it if the description states that it is an AI-Fantasy photo.  It kind of looks like the Q's blue prints for custom-built shovelnose E units that were never produced (the blue prints were included in a BRHS Bulletin).  
 
When buying BR-CB&Q-Zephyr art & photos, we all have to use our own judgement just like we do when selecting commercially manufactured models in our favorite scales.  Some models are clearly in Fantasy liveries, other models are so prototypical that many find the paint shade too dark (Stewart HO F unit graybacks).   
 
I just hope that Jay_Cee_Cor continues to offer photo prints of BR (CB&Q, C&S, FW&D), D&RGW, WP, & California Zephyr.  I have asked him for specific photo sizes that were different from his listing, and he has always accommodated me.  The detailed item description will often state the photo's location, date, & photographer.
 
I have 23 photo prints from him.  They all appear to be real, unaltered photos and most are in color.  Here are some examples:
 
CB&Q
#4960 on trestle near Ohio IL.
#4960 on steel truss bridge over Fox River at Sheridan IL.
Depot at Sandwich IL.
Depot at Crete NE.
CZ interiors in 1948 with actors posing as passengers in Chicago (B&W publicity photos).
 
D&RGW
Rio Grande Zephyr & California Zephyr at various scenic locations in CO & UT.
 
WP
California Zephyr in various scenic locations in CA, NV, & UT.
 
Let's all remember that the CB&Q also made "fantasy" photos for promotional purposes.  The Q did not print any disclaimer.  Examples are:
 
KCZ equipment in ads as a stand-in for the 1956 DZ equipment (prior to the availability of the new DZ equipment). 
 
"Photoshopping" mountains from MT into the background of the 1956 DZ in Lisle IL with a couple on horseback in the foreground watching the DZ pass by.  
 
Please buy the photos, art, & models that you like and enjoy them.  I'm happy that so many offerings are available.  
 
Bill H
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