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Re: [CBQ] FW&D SW1200 Lettering Help Request

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW&D SW1200 Lettering Help Request
From: "HOL WAGNER" <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 18:18:44 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] FW&D SW1200 Lettering Help Request
Tim:

The as-delivered lettering on both the C&S and SW&D SW1200s was in "Railroad Roman" and was not yellow but white, and as the first photo from Jim Sandrin shows, included white reporting marks and units number on either side of the headlight.  On the front of both the C&S and FW&D units' hoods, there was originally nothing but a unit number on the right side  (left when facing front of unit) in black rather than the white pon the cab end.  No logic to that, and the C&S and probably also FW&D soon replaced the white with black on the cab ends.

Hol

From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of timrwells <trwells@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 8:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW&D SW1200 Lettering Help Request
 
In looking through photos of the CB&Q SW1200s cab-end labeling, there appears consistency between the first and second sets of engines with the layout Bill describes; the lettering appears black and a serif style font. The font seems to have gone to a san-serif (block) lettering in the mid/late 1960s; this shows up if the unit were repainted. The FW&D SW1200s were delivered several years after the first group of CB&Qs and several years before the second group of CB&Q SW1200s.

Unfortunately, casting doubt on assuming this transferred to the FW&D practice, the C&S SW1200s were delivered a month before the FW&D units, and my older photos of those units seem to show yellow serif numbers and letters. By the BN merger, the yellow disappeared and replaced with black, block lettering.

I have thoroughly looked through Steve Alan Goens book on the FW&D and find no photos with the cab-end of the SW1200s. In his book is the only photo I have seen of red #605 cab-end, tucked into the pages about cabooses; it shows white, block lettering.

It would be great if some one can come up with a photo! Thanks, Tim Wells
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