Re: [CBQ] [BRHSlist] Original CB&Q SW1 9148 Purchased by Wisconsin Great Northern Railway

["Louis Zadnichek via groups.io" <LZadnichek=aol.com@groups.io>]

August 15, 2022

 

Bryan - YES, thanks too for the update and clarification - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL

In a message dated 8/15/2022 2:16:22 PM Central Standard Time, espoonmore@att.net writes:

 

 

Thanks for the update Bryan

 

Erik

 

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 02:10:07 PM CDT, Bryan Howell via groups.io <tubaman21=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

 

 

All,

 

The prime mover for the MTZ is coming from the CNW painted (never was a C&NW locomotive) SW600 that was purchased. As far as the MTZ website, Robert Tabern, the WGN employee that was running the website and doing the video updates has left the WGN. There have been no recent updates as there hasn't been much work going on. The WGN is running excursions this year and all the employees are needed for that. Additionally, the supply chain issues continue to plague the restoration as only one truck spring pack has arrived. They did start working on window glazing on the Injun Joe a few weeks ago. Control of the MTZ Facebook page remains with the WGN and updates will continue to be shared there, but the MTZ website is gone for now.

 

The purchase of the SW1 in question was done not knowing the heritage of the locomotive. There was no blue card in the cab, nor is there a builders plate or frame number. RRPA has it listed as an ex-DLW locomotive, but I have seen three sources now that point towards it being CB&Q 9148. A surprise is planned for those attending the Fall Meet event at the WGN and I don't want to spoil it. One of the reasons the SW1 was purchased was for the trucks. The SW600 was also going to donate a truck for the MTZ, but the style of roller bearings on those trucks protrude out too far to clear the skirting on the MTZ. The roller bearings on the trucks of the SW1 have a lower profile, so one of the trucks from that will go to the MTZ, hence the purchase. Fitting it may actually be a Q locomotive supplying the truck to resurrect the MTZ. The SW1 is operable and will remain so. 

 

Should the WGN do what they are planning to do, those attending the Fall Meet event at the WGN are in for quite a treat.

 

Bryan J. Howell

Superior, WI

 

 

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 1:52 PM, Erik Spoonmore

<espoonmore@att.net> wrote:

 

Louis

The prime mover for the MTZ is coming from a former CNW SW1 that the Wisconsin Great Northern owns, unless the plans changed. I guess what concerns me about the MTZ project is all updates have stopped and the http://www.marktwainzephyr.com website seems to be gone. The last real update on the Facebook page is from May, and they said they're waiting on parts.

 

Erik

 

On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 01:44:08 PM CDT, Louis Zadnichek via groups.io <lzadnichek=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

 

 

August 15, 2022

 

Tom - I had read, if I remember correctly, that WGN purchased the SW1 to salvage the prime mover out of it to place in the Mark Twin Zephyr and they would then scrap what was left. Can anyone bring provide further details? - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL   

In a message dated 8/15/2022 1:12:14 PM Central Standard Time, thommack=yahoo.com@groups.io writes:

 

According to the LocoNotes IO group, it appears that the Wisconsin Great Northern Railway has acquired the ILSX 912, an SW1 which previously worked for General Mills. Also according to LocoNotes this SW1's history is as follows:

ILSX 912  SW1  (EMC 1280, 2/41, E375-1, ex-ILS 912, ex-ILS 904, ex-Dyno Nobel 92, ex-Hercules Powder 92, ex-BN 92, nee-CBQ 9148)

I know Bryan Howell is planning on taking a look at the locomotive. It would be great to see this locomotive back in its original CB&Q paint to complement the Mark Twain Zephyr. If this might be happening, is the BRHS possibly involved in this in any way?

Tom Mack
Cincinnati, OH

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