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....and even more impressive with a substantial and detailed memory of it. Truly superb, thanks again for sharing it!

Chris Munson
Frisco, TX



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From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Date: 5/20/22 8:57 AM (GMT-06:00)
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Thanks, Chris.  It was pure chance.  On Feb. 6, 1966, we (members of the NRHS Intermountain Chapter) had taken our ex-Q office car 96 on the rear of the Rio Grande ski train up to Winter Park and spent the day photographing whatever trains came by, often from the rear platform of the 96.  When I heard this one coming, and not knowing what it would be, I decided to move out into the snow for a broader angle, and I've always been glad I did.  It was my last railroad photo before entering the Army five days later, and I used it on my Christmas card that year.

Hol

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#959 in the snow. What an absolutely magnificent shot, Hol! 

Chris Munson 
Frisco, TX 



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From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Date: 5/19/22 12:16 PM (GMT-06:00)
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Run through motive power

Some more.

Hol

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My 1973 BN Annual has an 18-page article on motive power pools, with lots of photos, detailing all the pools the BN participated in up to that time, with information on the ones that were already in existence when BN was created in 1970.

Hol

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Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2022 8:58 AM
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Malcolm,

Over 20 years ago we discussed pool power on the Q and I still have my notes from November 8, 2001! Here is what I had at the time. A number of members on this list contributed to the info back then. Most of this info is still relevant and up to date. I have newer pool power info based on continued research of the C&I from Chicago to Mpls/StP from 1965-merger since that is the line I model, but I'm not sure if that is of interest to you or not.

Thanks to everyone so far who responded to my post. I am gathering the info being posted and will put it together in a form I hope to grow over time.

 

Special thanks to Ed DeRouin for reminding all of us about Railfax and back issues of X2200. It just so happens they are located just down the street from my office, so I picked up the last 3 issues of X2200 I needed, and what a surprise: Issue 3 from March 1968 has an article on Motive Power Pools and predominate in the list are the CB&Q pools of the 1960's.

 

Highlights:

 

CB&Q-NYC Elkhart, IN to Omaha, NE  Power: 2000+ HP B-B (pictures show primarily NYC U25B/U28B/U30B. GP35 and GP40 units also used.

 

CB&Q-PRR-UP Enola to Los Angeles via 21st St Chicago  Power: 2000+ HP GP/SD units (at least one picture in March 1968 of a lashup of 3 Q GP30's, 1 UP GP30, and a PRR C425)

 

CB&Q-UP Chicago to Grand Island  Power: 2000+ HP B-B (pictures show primarily UP GP30's and GP30B's, GP35's)

 

CB&Q-D&RGW Chicago to Salt Lake  Power: 2000+ HP B-B (primarily GP30)

Only ran for short time in 1965-1966.

 

C&S-ATSF Pueblo to Denver  Power: Anything (there are several shots in the C&S Southern Division book that show even SF RSD4/5 mixed with C&S GP, SD, and F power!)

 

According to the article Q used its six U25B's extensively in UP pool service in late 1965 to mid 1966.

 

Finally, there is mention of a possible SP-CB&Q pool that simply had ??? next to it. Also a discontinued CB&QGN pool that was suspended prior to the merger. Does anyone know anything about these pools?


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Tom Mack
Cincinnati, OH
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