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Re: [CBQ] Yellow Doors?

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Yellow Doors?
From: "Leo Phillipp via" <>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 18:39:34 -0600

To Jim’s comments I would point out the reweigh info. Near the lt.wt./capacity stenciling on these cars. They have been through a repair project(note the newer painted blocks) that the photo leads me to believe involved removal of roof ladders and roof walks and these replacement doors. I would agree with Jim that since the cars were on relatively short life expectancies it was decided not to spend time and money painting the doors to match what by then were around 25 year old paint jobs.
While box cars with doors of different colors than the car sides could be seen in any era. Think a quick fix. It seemed to me as someone on the ground that a lot of BN box cars were receiving new or used replacement doors and none were being painted to match cars. It was routine to see box car red cars with green,red,blue etc doors. Just as it an everyday occurrence to see BN green box cars with doors of just about any color in the rainbow. It seemed only when a box car went through shop including it a repaint did it come out with uniform color

Leo Phillipp

On Jan 13, 2022, at 6:15 PM, James Sandrin <sandmantrains@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The 23000-23099 series, class XML1 & !A, were built in 1955 at Havelock with DF loaders, Waugh cushion underframes and Armco nailable steel flooring; Cadillacs for special loading in their day.  By the time those photos were taken, that day was long past and they were running out their final miles in general service.  In the BN-era pictures, the yellow doors shown were replacements, or had been repaired, and given yellow primer rather than the original mineral red colour.  The best explanation for this is that the various car shops were not going to waste time or money matching paint on cars running their last few miles.  Unlike say, the Union Pacific which had a variety of different door colours or symbols based on special purposes for the various classes of boxcars, the Hill lines did not generally decorate house cars with special symbols or colours, other than notations for various loading devices or cushion underframes. 

You can still paint a model with faded yellow doors of course, it just has no special meaning in the BN era when those prototypes were painted.  Jim Sandriin


On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 14:04, Jim Younger via <> wrote:
All the pics show DF boxcars (damage free).  Yellow door an identifier?

Jim Younger

On Jan 13, 2022, at 3:51 PM, Rupert Gamlen <gamlenz@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Are these yellow or gold? Left over from the 1966 RPI Golden Freight Car Award? Is it coincidence that all three examples were XML-1’s?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ


From: CBQ@xxxxxxxxx <CBQ@xxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Tad Blacketer
Sent: Friday, 14 January 2022 8:36 am
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Subject: [CBQ] Yellow Doors?


Quick question, I see pictures of red boxcars with yellow doors.  Did this symbolize something or was it just scavenged from the junkyard?  If the yellow meant something, were there other color-coded doors?  I have attached some photos I found online as a reference.  


--- TCB

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