Chris,   When Mike assembled these books, it was not always easy to find color photos in the time frame he was given to produce the book.  I’ve attached a color photo of these cars for you.  The B&W photo (which has been darkened so that the 4-61 build date can be seen is from the BRHS Burlington Bulletin #20, which unfortunately is out of print.   Dave   From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of popbumper1 Sent: Friday, August 27, 2021 11:25 PM To: CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] Two announcements!     Quick question on the HC's,  if I may. I have the Michael Spoor CB&Q color guide. All of the HC1-A's and B's are mineral red or black, and then are painted grey in the group of 450 rebuilt in 1968 (starting at road #182250) as "HC1-C's". If the Intermountain models represent a 1961 build, why are they not in this volume? I realize that some cars ARE missed in various volumes, but I was surprised to find out about these models and see them missing in the Spoor book. Thank you! Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- Date: 8/27/21 9:21 AM (GMT-06:00)  Subject: Re: [CBQ] Two announcements!  Interesting.   Thanks for doing the research and sharing!   Dave     On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 10:24 AM, Dave Lotz wrote: I received word last night that InterMountain has shipped our limited edition run of the Q’s HC-1 hoppers in grey with the placard herald.  The built date on these cars is 4-61 and we’ve run six numbers, two with return stenciling. 
 Awesome news Dave! I just ordered three! I was really excited to see the two cars stenciled for Return to Oregon, IL since I model Oregon.
  These cars that Dave is selling were numbered CB&Q 181900-182249 and built at Havelock in 1961. For those wondering what they might have carried, besides sand. the wheel reports for CB&Q trains 97 on 06-04-1966 and 07-02-1966 have seven of these cars listed (one on the 06-04-1966 train 97 and six on the 07-02-1966 train 97). Here is the list and loads:
  Train 97 06-04-1966 CB&Q 181979 Loaded 50 tons CLAY Station: Savanna  Destination: Ranville, MI  Consignee: The Hanna Mining Co.
  Train 97 07-02-1966 CB&Q 181907 Loaded 50 tons CLAY Station: Minnesota Tfr MN  Destination: Norshore Jct, MN  Consignee: Reserve Mining Company CB&Q 181941 Loaded 50 tons CLAY Station: Minnesota Tfr MN  Destination: Emco, MN             Consignee: Erie Mining CB&Q 182097 Loaded 40 tons CLAY Station: Minnesota Tfr MN  Destination: Norshore Jct, MN  Consignee: Reserve Mining Company CB&Q 182179 Loaded 50 tons CLAY Station: Minnesota Tfr MN  Destination: Norshore Jct, MN  Consignee: Reserve Mining Company CB&Q 182240 Loaded 50 tons CLAY Station: Minnesota Tfr MN  Destination: Negaunee, MN      Consignee: Empire Mine CB&Q 182244 Loaded 50 tons CLAY Station: Minnesota Tfr MN  Destination: Norshore Jct, MN  Consignee: Reserve Mining Company   This would have been bentonite clay for making taconite pellets:
  To process taconite, the ore is ground into a fine powder, the magnetite is separated from the gangue by strong magnets, and the powdered iron concentrate is combined with a binder such as bentonite clay and limestone as a flux. As a last step, it is rolled into pellets about 10 millimeters in diameter that contain about 65% iron. The pellets are fired at a very high temperature to harden them and make them durable. [source: Wikepedia]
  --  Tom Mack Cincinnati, OH    
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