BRHSLIST
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [CBQ] Waycars and cabooses used on run-through trains

To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Waycars and cabooses used on run-through trains
From: "Leo Phillipp via groups.io" <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 16:53:47 -0500
Delivered-to: unknown
Delivered-to: archives@nauer.org
Delivered-to: mailing list CBQ@groups.io
Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=groups.io; q=dns/txt; s=20140610; t=1625003632; bh=HYdNRH2f00FigmK4uMv/Ii816AYbKhjkgWTNGwOxjLY=; h=Content-Type:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To; b=Ie+N12VzkChmhLcdgLEFDkBlc/mmw/s4cyep0pHInw+b4YSkGhJg/NXUgCM47c3r5IL /X1UroPtXbK9Y/+bWhaWJVVRKMoQzrXQYmDwSnj/3BObPfOk0zFBaZlEDrgBX78Zaa+w/ +RhTtKgC0aqmytvAnlnCVnZeKKFs5UzRwlM=
In-reply-to: <1171880269.2636438.1624900348397@mail.yahoo.com>
List-help: <mailto:CBQ+help@groups.io>
List-id: <CBQ.groups.io>
List-subscribe: <mailto:CBQ+subscribe@groups.io>
List-unsubscribe: <mailto:CBQ+unsubscribe@groups.io>
Mailing-list: list CBQ@groups.io; contact CBQ+owner@groups.io
References: <1171880269.2636438.1624900348397@mail.yahoo.com>
Reply-to: CBQ@groups.io
Sender: CBQ@groups.io
Pete,

Back then it was just given standard practice. Even back then I was always wondering about a couple senior Conductors in the C&I pool. As they aged most guys would gravitate toward the dinkies to get out of the cold,heat,odd hours, etc but we had a couple guys in their 60s still doing the bailing  off at Savanna headed west and climbing aboard going east. Most engineers did a fine job of keeping speed down until the radio sounded “everybody off and everybody on”. Of course there were exceptions. I vaguely recall One Cicero bound train at Savanna that had to stop when the brakeman barely got aboard but the Conductor was left on the ballast. Now they had to start for Burke hill from a dead stop…………

Getting on and off moving equipment was just second nature. A ground pounder on a wayfreight or yard job might climb on or unload from moving equipment a couple dozen times a shift.

But the one engineer who scared me was the guy who said “kid if you can’t get on and off at 10MPH, you don’t belong out here”. But there was a way to slow him down,you just didn’t get off or on and then that delayed the whole process.

Leo

On Jun 28, 2021, at 12:12 PM, jpslhedgpeth via groups.io <jpslhedgpeth=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


Thanks Leo for a welcome dose of "Real Railroading" from someone who could say  "been there...done that".  Having never worked the "rear end" on any of my brakeman assignments, hence never had the opportunity to enter into a rear end  "acrobatic" show, but you are certainly correct in your analysis of what could possibly be a dangerous move   getting on the front end of a moving waycar...maybe moving a bit faster than usual since the train would be  "getting out of town"

Pete  


-----Original Message-----
From: Leo Phillipp via groups.io <qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io>
To: CBQ@groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2021 10:18 am
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Waycars and cabooses used on run-through trains

A couple comments in response to comments made by others in this chain. My time reference is the 1970s.

I sure hope the sight of a rear end crew change with the outbound guys boarding the front end of the waycar was an exception. There was a high probability of ending up under the waycar when trying to board the front end. Standard practice was for the inbound crew to swing off the rear platform some distance before where the outbound guys were standing so they could then swing onto the rear platform.

Foreign road hacks accumulated at Clyde on a daily basis. There would be a literal rainbow of colors parked on the ice house tracks. I don’t recall the story of a yardmaster deliberately blocking a foreign transfer crew from getting back to their hack but I could see if they had a reputation for tieing things up where a yardmaster might return the favor.

The problem with transfers was the very nature of the beast. As a transfer crew your dragging around a lengthy train on a foreign railroad. You’re going to be the last thing moved. All home road moves will go in front of you. It was a daily, constant scene of westbound foreign road transfers backed up on mains 4 and 5 between Union Ave and the Belt bridge. They would literally be parked nose to tail. There might even be a train or two setting down on the Panhandle waiting it’s turn. With 16 hours to work it would be more likely to make this slow, sluggish trip and then get back home caboose light. But with the reduction to 14 and then 12 hours it became much more unlikely to make a round trip under the hours of service.

But this did not necessarily discourage the crews. They would simply contact their mgmt for a cab ride back to their terminal. While waiting there was always the ongoing pocker games in the “D” yard office locker room. Recently departed yardmaster “Twiggy” like to tell the story of having 4-6 card games going on in the locker room. I stopped in once or twice in the way back to the roundhouse with road power and did indeed see a host of characters playing cards. By the way, the crews were still being,paid until they got back to their terminal. Don’t forget back then “tow in time” did not count against the hours of service. Isn’t there a recent book with that title ?

The stranded foreign power would accumulate on the sidetracks behind”D” yard office or at the roundhouse.

I’m sure the same thing was happening to BN crews at foreign yards. 
It would be interesting to hear from someone with knowledge of how all this accumulated foreign stuff made its way back home.

Leo Phillipp
 
_._,_._,_

Groups.io Links:

You receive all messages sent to this group.

View/Reply Online (#62218) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic
Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [archives@nauer.org]

_._,_._,_
<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>