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Re: [CBQ] CB&Q XM-33 HO Scale Models and Prototype

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From: "Nelson Moyer" <npmoyer@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2020 19:20:41 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] CB&Q XM-33 HO Scale Models and Prototype

Check Zephyr 39 page 26 for the only XM-33 reference in the BRHS Publication Index. Full information is published in Railroad Prototype Cyclopedia Volume 6 page 12. I use the latter reference to do four express cars, starting with cars lettered for SP bought cheap on the internet. I stripped, detailed, painted and decaled the cars as shown in the attached photo. I have a few prototype photos if you need them. Contact me off list.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: CBQ@groups.io [mailto:CBQ@groups.io] On Behalf Of Tom Mack via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2020 8:16 AM
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Subject: [CBQ] CB&Q XM-33 HO Scale Models and Prototype

 

I have three LifeLike Proto 2000 CB&Q XM-33 50' single door boxcars in my collection, numbers 21045, 21182, and 21267. All three are in Chinese red. Somehow in my "want list" I show that P2K made these cars in the XM-33 22000-22499 series as well. Strange thing is I can't find any photos of the HO scale models and none ever turned up at pre-COVID19 train shows and I haven't found any on eBay. So now I am wondering if I am mistaken. Does anyone know if P2K actually made XM-33's in the 22000 series? Perhaps you have on in your collection?

Second, my list of CB&Q boxcars in the 22000 series seems a bit confused. I show CB&Q 22000-22329 (330 cars) as XM-33's built at Havelock but with no build date. I then have an entry for cars 22000-22287 with a quantity of 11 cars and a note that says "DF" Box, but no other information. Then I show XM-33's 22330-22499 (170 cars) built 1044 at Havelock. After that I have cars 22500-22749 but no other data (class, build date, length, etc.), then 22574-22679 but only 4 cars in the series, then full data on class XML-33A cars 22800-22899 (100 cars) built 8-9/1948 at Havelock. My notes say these are "DF" converted and Re-# in 1955, but I don't know the series they were renumbered from. My reference for these XML-33A's is the CB&Q Color Guide page 51.

It could be the smaller number series's within the larger groups (with the small quantities) came from an ORER, but I don't have any notes on where the info came from. Any help sorting out these numbers would be appreciated.
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Tom Mack
Cincinnati, OH

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