October 2, 2019
Charlie - I've still got a spike and tie plate salvaged from the West Towns streetcar line right-of-way. Seldom thrown anything away....much to my wife's irritation! Thanks - Louis
In a message dated 10/2/2019 11:53:19 AM Central Standard Time, cvlk@comcast.net writes:
Louis-
We would have been at RB at the same time except I started at St. John’s Military Academy in 8th grade. I graduated class of 1963.
My folks lived with my grandparents in Hollywood after the war, built a house on 30th and Prairie and later another one on 31st and Forest.
I was all over the abandoned West Towns streetcar line ROW, the bridge over Salt Creeek, and worked summers at the ZOO bussing tables in the Reflectory (cafeteria).
Most of my Brook Park elementary school classmates went on to RB although some went to LaGrange Township HS as BP was in LaGrange Park.
The Salt Creek club was in Elmhurst. At one time there were three clubs located within a couple hundred yards of each other in town…and today Salt Creek and the Elmhurst Model Railroad Club are still there.
Yes, many moons ago!!!
Charlie
From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Louis Zadnichek via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 12:04 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Aurora-Chicago Milk Train
Charlie - When my Dad was transferred from Ottumwa, IA, to Chicago as Chicago Division Superintendent, we first rented a home in Brookfield. I walked to Riverside-Brookfield High School during my sophomore year (1962). The path was through a forest preserve and over an abandoned trolley line right-of-way. It included crossing over a creek on a low bridge that had been left in place. Was that Salt Creek? Also, wasn't there also a Salt Creek Model Railroad Club during that era which had a large HO gauge layout? By my junior year, my parents had bought a home in Downers Grove and I was attending Downers Grove High School. A long time ago - Louis
In a message dated 9/30/2019 2:58:23 PM Central Standard Time, cvlk@comcast.net writes:
Bill-
Early references to Salt Creek call it the lesser Aux Plaines and we were discussing a 1868 Milk article that predates the development of Grossdale / Brookfield. I had not heard of any thing in the area beyond the original Lyons (Riverside) depot built with the 1864 opening of the line. Riverside was later the milk shipping point which was my reason for questioning a Salt Creek rather than Des Plaines River reference.
I grew up in Brookfield and spent my “yout” around (and in!!) Salt Creek as the forest preserve was my playground. Even had a 8ft Dingey (and also metal cement mixer trays on occasion) that we used to explore Salt Creek back before flood control channelization wiped out the traces of the Chicago, Millington & Western narrow gauge crossing of Salt Creek north of Sunnyside Avenue in Brookfield. Better times when unsupervised kids were safe just about anywhere they could ride their bikes!!!
The post was inadvertent; we have an off group discussion going of the origins of Westmont with a local historian who attended one of Leo’s East End talks that includes Rupert Gamlen, Glen Haug, Leo and myself.
Charlie Vlk
Salt Creek is probably correct. Salt Creek starts somewhere up near Woodale and flows down through Oakbrook, crosses under York Road, just north of Hinsdale at the Graue Mill, crosses the Trip State toll road just east of there, flows through Bemis Woods and finally empties into the Des Plaines River inLyons near 1st Avenue and Route 34.So, in the early days, Salt Creek could have been a station anywhere from Hinsdale area to Lyons.
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Re: Aurora-Chicago Milk Train
From: Charlie Vlk
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 14:25:04 PDT
All-
Whoops!!!
Looks like I should have read the clip about milk first….
It not only shows Bushville (!!!) as a place between Downer’s Grove and Hinsdale, but also shows Hazel Glen and a new one…Salt Creek…being the biggest shipper Aurora-Chicago on the 2 year old line! Now it may be an error and should read Lyons (DesPlaines River) but since this is the first time Salt Creek was mentioned prior to Grossdale being subdivided I tend to think it is accurate.
Interestingly, Naperville and Lyons (Riverside) were original depots on the 1864 “Chicago Branch” and certainly would have shipped milk (they did in the later report) but they are omitted in this article.
Good stuff!!!
Charlie
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