| I did not know that Norm. My rail knowledge is mainly Chicago to the west.
Thanks
On Oct 11, 2018, at 3:38 PM, Norm Metcalf via Groups.Io wrote:
The Long Island Rail Road was piggybacking wagons in the 1860's. Norm
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Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2018, 02:34:43 PM MDT Subject: Re: [CBQ] 6310 On Circus Train
Louis and all:
The special on the circus showed several things.
Barnum pioneering what became piggyback loading.
The German High Command learning from the circus how to move troops and support staff while the Barnum show was in Europe 1898-1902.
The circus building their own cars to the longest length possible since the railroads charged the circus per car not by weight.
The roust-abouts riding on the flats with the wagons. It was cooler and more comfortable than the dorm cars where they sometimes were 4 to a berth.
After the last bigtop dropped the circus became a wagon (truck) show again until sometime in the late 60's early 70's when it returned to the rails still with their own rolling stock with the reporting mark of RBBX..
On Oct 11, 2018, at 2:49 PM, Louis Zadnichek via Groups.Io wrote:
October 11, 2018
Group - This past Monday and Tuesday evenings, Public Broadcasting put on Ken Burn's documentary on circus history from P.T. Barnum up to Ringling Brothers North and the dropping of the last big top in the mid-1950s. About two thirds of the way through the second episode on Tuesday evening was brief segment showing a Ringling Brothers North circus train. It had to been originally taken on 16mm color film as it was as sharp and crisp as you could ask for. What immediately caught my eye was a faded red Q wood way car being pushed ahead of the locomotive that was coupled to a series of flat cars with gaily painted circus wagons tied down on them. And lo and behold, the freshly painted (or so it appeared) locomotive was Class M-4-A No. 6310. I couldn't get over it..... There was no indication as to date or location and since the train filled the screen, you couldn't see any landmarks that might give you an idea of where the circus was being held or what the time frame might've been. Since the way car was leading, perhaps, the 6310 had first uncoupled and ran around the circus train to tie on to the way car as it was going to then back the train in on whatever team track had been set aside for the train. From the color film and that most M-4-A's had returned to Lines East by 1950 to work out the remainder of their services lives between Galesburg-Centralia-Beardstown, maybe the circus train was in southern Illinois. That short film clip sure made my Tuesday evening! Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
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