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From: "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 14:22:46 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Depot colour schemes
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As Rupert has related here from earlier posts, the repainting of depots to white did indeed begin in the mid-1950s, several years before the switch to Chinese red.  And in one case, the repainted depot seemed determined to revert to its old Indian red color, but only managed to obtain a pink hue.  The depot, at Guernsey, Wyo., was situated where the Colorado Fuel & Iron Company's Colorado & Wyoming Railway delivered iron ore (hematite) to the Q and C&S for transport south to the CF&I steel mill at Pueblo, Colo.  Dust from the mineral red hematite coated the white depot over the years, and by the early 1960s it was clearly pink and remained that way until replaced by BN in the early 1980s.


I have a question about Burlington depot paint schemes that I have been completely unable to find an answer to:  In the 1930s, when Indian or mineral red was the standard color for depots systemwide, a number of the Q's wooden depots in Wyoming were painted a light color with dark trim.  My question (actually two question) is obvious:  What color was this, and why were these depots painted differently than others on the railroad?  From a number of existing black-and-white photos of these structures (and I'm attaching one of Lovell), I've theorized that the color could be the same light brownish gray with bronze (dark) green trim, as used by the Colorado & Southern prior to its acquisition by the Q at the end of 1908 (which, coincidentally, is when the Q formally adopted the Indian red with bronze green trim colors as standard.  Anybody know anything at all about these Wyoming depots?


Hol





From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Rupert Gamlen gamlenz@hotmail.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2017 3:15 PM
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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Depot colour schemes
 
 

Ken

Here are extracts from a couple of earlier posts -

The repainting of depots into white with no separate color for trim began in 1955 or even the year before, well prior to the 1959 adoption of the new image paint schemes for diesels.  It was done purely for economy and in hindsight was a very poor choice of color, as structures that were painted white were of wooden construction and the white color simply emphasized the weathering of the wood, something the Indian red (which was actually the same color as mineral red) tended to hide.  And of course dirt and grime were extremely visible on the white structures. 

CB&Q wood frame depot paint schemes:

From about 1903 to late 1950s, the main color was Indian Red with Bronze Green trim. Roofs could be black, green, silver, or red. there could be other variations as well. Sheds, towers, & other structures often had this scheme as well.

From the late 1950s to the merger in 1970, the main color was white (corresponded with the adoption of Chinese red for freight equipment).  I have seen some photos of green trim with the white depots.

A third post stated that the change to white coincided with the adoption of Chinese red in 1958.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

 

 

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Ken, someone will have more specific info than I do, but yes the CB&Q did move to an all white scheme and I believe the switch from mineral red with green tirm happened in the 1950s.

Duncan Cameron

 

On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 4:20 PM, KenH khoward@powerup.com.au [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

I believe that the CBQ started painting depots all white at some point.
Not being the greatest painter it would be an easy paint scheme to do.
Can someone tell me if they did use all white and if so when it would
have started.

Ken H



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