Re: [CBQ] 9123 or not [1 Attachment]

["LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

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July 25, 2017

 

Rupert - It comes with age.....I misread your posting. Guess I need to be shopped to have my dry pipe unclogged. I stand corrected. 

 

Anyway, I do have an inserted/attached image to share of FW&D 601 taken at Childress, TX. The image was ID'd as "First Diesel Switch Engine At Childress, TX 1937" and that would match with your delivery date.

 

 

Perhaps, a FW&D-Wichita Valley expert in our Group would like to further comment on No. 601. As for the Midwest advertising photograph, may be it was taken while 601 was testing on the Q in Chicago, or Houston on the FW&D. The rear cab of the steam locomotive in the background looks Q to me, but I do not recognize the sand tower (if not a small coal chute) as Q.  Always enjoyable to speculate on these old images. Best Regards - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL  

 

In a message dated 7/25/2017 1:47:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:

Louis

 

You misunderstood me. Although this is advertised as Midwest 9123, it is in fact WV 101 (built by Cummings) at the time of its delivery, without any road numbers or initials being applied. It was sold to its “parent” FW&DC in February 1938 and became number 601. It went to Northeast Oklahoma Railroad in February 1942 and was scrapped in September 1946.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

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July 25, 2017

 

Rupert - The Midwest unit shown in the EBay image is NOT the Q's 9123. This is a larger locomotive. And I do not have an image of Midwest 101 painted in Burlington colors. Perhaps, another member does and would be willing to share.

 

I think the location is 14th Street or, perhaps, Western Avenue in Chicago. I'm pretty sure that's a Class G-10 0-6-0 type behind the Midwest unit. The structure behind the unit appears to be a large sand tower. I don't think its large enough to be a coal chute.

 

If you look at the Midwest unit closely, the area beneath the cab appears to have been retouched to remove the number. That would lead me to believe the image was used for advertising purposes by Midwest. Best Regards - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL

 

In a message dated 7/25/2017 2:48:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:

There’s a photo on eBay at

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7F194-RP-1937-60s-CB-Q-BURLINGTON-RAILROAD-ENGINE-9123-CHICAGO-IL-/401371515012?hash=item5d739b4884:g:EukAAOSw8edZdTQ5

which purports to be Midwest 65 tonner number 9123 at Chicago. The unit is devoid of any numbering or road initials and appeared to be painted a lighter colour than black. In an attempt to identify a possible date, I compared it with other photos of 9123 and identified a significant number of structural changes that seemed to have taken place. Fortunately, when checking the Midwest units in Bulletin 6 – the Center Cab issue -  I turned to the following page and found Witchita Valley’s Cummings 95 tonner number 101, which matched it perfectly. The text shows that it was delivered in Pullman green paint but without letters or numbers, in September 1937, so presumably this photo was taken when it was handed over to the Burlington by the builder. Does anyone recognise the location?

The Bulletin in 1982 noted that only six photos were known of this unit. Maybe more have been found in the interim but there are now at least seven.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ

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