July 12, 2017
Bob - I have a third party IT provider that backs-up all my files. Or, you
can do it yourself on the Cloud. As for Email files, if any Email is what I
consider important, I make a file of it and save. Other than that, I've
accepted that Email comes and goes, particularly with AOL.
I suggest in posting to the Yahoo CB&Q Group that you simply send
an Email to < cbq@yahoogroups.com >. To reply to a post when it
appears, just hit your reply tab, write your reply and send. That's
what I do. I do not go into their site. Let's hope the Group stays
free - Louis
In a message dated 7/12/2017 12:25:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
clipperw@gmail.com writes:
Bob,
Maybe you should set up an alternate email account with another isp, like
G Mail and try that. I know that you are concerned about all your past
records, but it doesn’t seem to be working well.
Actually, Verizon now owns AOL, which they bought on July 23, 2015. AOL
has continued to function as a separate company, buying up other businesses
since Verizon bought them. In July, 2016, Verizon bought Yahoo and now plans
to merge them with AOL into a new company called “Oath”. I don’t know what
that does for either Yahoo and the Groups or for AOL.In any case, Verizon is
the parent organization. It won’t surprise me if they start charging for
access! If they do, I am out of Groups.
Bill
Bill -
For some unknown reason, I haven't been able to "reply" to comments on
the CBQ Yahoo Group. I can't even place the cursor in the response
area in order to type a reply. I have made 3 attempts to contact AOL
about the problem but after being put "on hold" due to "extreme call
volume", I got pissed, and after 30 - 45 minutes of wait time, I just hung
up. I see two of the yahoo groups I belong to (P:48 and NP Modelers)
are switching to a different system, away from Yahoo Groups, as some
moderators are talking of a possible annual fee of $500 to maintain the
Group photo system. The new host is Group.io.com and I have already been
switched to the new system by the NP Modelers Yahoo group. I believe
my problem is with AOL and their take-over of Verizon e-mail. I will
forward Digests from both the P:48 and NP Modelers groups so you can see
what these moderators are talking about.
Bob
In a message dated 7/12/2017 9:24:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, clipperw@gmail.com writes: Bob,
Thanks for that info. Like you, I have never heard of F-Ms being
considered for commuter service on the Q. Likewise, I have never heard
that a GP7 was used in Q commuter service, but as stated earlier, it could
have been some sort of trial or demonstration. A photo of an EMD
demonstrator pulling a commuter train would be interesting!
Louis mentioned that you were having computer troubles. Is it hacking
or some technical issue?
Bill
Bill -
To answer your last question, yes, all 68 of the GP-7's were
built with steam generators along with the first SD-7's and
SD-9's. According to the first quarter 1969 Locomotive Assignment
(for Maintenance) Sheet I have, 7 GP-7's [222, 223, 243, 244, 248, 251,
259] and 2 GP-9's [283, 289] had "serviceable but not used" steam
generators. Those engines were assigned to Lines East (59 GP-7's
were assigned Lines East; 9 for Lines West). For Lines West,
4 GP-9's [273, 274, 280, 285 (all Lincoln)] and 3 dual controlled
SD-9's [336, 340, 350 (all Alliance)] had "serviceable but not
used" steam generators.
Ray Buhrmaster told me by the time the Q closed the suburban yard
in DG in September, 1952, there were no more than two dinky assignments
powered with steam. The rest of the suburban trains had been moved to
Aurora and mostly powered with diesels I'm going to assume
(dangerous) that steam wasn't slowly "booted-off" dinkies until the
arrival of the E-7's, figuring the first 20 E-7's in 1945 went to
replace steam on thru passenger service and not until the arrival of the
second order of 11 E-7's in 1947, could steam dinkies start to
be replaced regularly with diesels at a slow pace. With the
arrival in 1949 of the last order of 13 E-7's, steam powered suburban
trains were greatly reduced in numbers even though steam was
occasionally used on dinkies departing Aurora. When the DG
suburban yard closed, steam was never used again on the dinkies, that
I'm aware of.
This thread has brought about an interesting comment from Charlie
Vlk concerning the possible use of a F-M "Trainmaster" on a Q suburban
train. I know they were used on SP commuter service out of San
Francisco and were considered successful but I've never heard any old
heads mention an F-M.
Bob
In a message dated 7/11/2017 2:05:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, clipperw@gmail.com writes: Bob,
Q’s first GP7s arrived in September, 1951. Of course, it could
have been an EMD demonstrator. That would be a really interesting
photo. By September, 1951, Q already had all of the E5s and E7s in
service and 24 of the E8s. Plus, they still used some steam for
another year. Certainly could have happened. Were all of the GP7s
boiler equipped?
Bill
No luck today contacting Ray & George; maybe tonight.
In a message dated 7/11/2017 12:30:38 A.M. Central Daylight
Time, Amtrak347@aol.com
writes:
I do recall either Gene Benoit or Cliff Culhane telling me of
a very "brief" trial of a GP-7 used on a short, mid-day dinky
between DG and CHI about 1950 or 1951, but not a whole lot of
"details". Only guy I can think of who might remember (and
is still breathing) is Ray Buhrmaster, who lived directly south of
the DG suburban yard and took a lot of pictures. Another
possibility is George Kanary, who spent his elementary school
years commuting on the Q from CHI to Stone Ave. I'll see if
I can reach them tomorrow.
In a message dated 7/10/2017 5:51:04 P.M. Central Daylight
Time, gib1@sbcglobal.net
writes:
Dave Weber
mentioned to me that he had read on the CB&Q Yahoo group?
webpage that someone asked if Q steam boiler equipped GPs were
ever used in suburban service?
Do any of you
remember if they were ever used in suburban service?
Gib = =
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