Hello Hol, Ted and All - Currently on eBay is a pile of old HO freight cars which includes a silver Burlington hopper. Possibly or probably an old Mantua car from the forties - and the number is right: 190854. Listing is 222336788864 PAW
On Friday, December 9, 2016 11:20 AM, "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I think Ted is right. The ebay seller is from Des Moines and has a large number of what appear to be 8x10s from a newspaper photographer. The vast majority are from the Des Moines area, though a few are from outlying areas. Quite a few have railroad interest
-- wrecks, new locomotives and such -- and I would assume the aluminum-sided hopper car full of coal, with a gentleman in overcoat standing in the rain to look at it, was unusual enough that it warranted a photo for the local paper. Thanks, Ted, for suggesting
the location and Louis, for pointing out the seller's other photos.
Hol
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2016 9:33 AM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Aluminum Side Hopper
December 9, 2016
Ted - I agree. Over the past few months, there's been a series of 8x10 newspaper photographs marked "Watermark" being sold on EBay that all originated from Des Moines. I believe the Q aluminum side hopper image is one from that same series. Merry Christmas -
Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 12/8/2016 10:40:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
Hello,
The other possible CBQ location is in Des Moines, where Iowa Transfer RR was under wire at one time and FDDM&S was also in the same area, west of Shortline Tower.
ted
At 09:33 AM 12/8/2016, you wrote:
Hol, when Iowa and trolley lines are mentioned most might think the photo was taken in Mason City IA on the Mason City & Clear Lake (later Iowa Traction). But I’m not sure as the support brackets
don’t match photos I have seen of the MC&CL.
As it is a CB&Q car in 1947 the photo more likely is on the Southern Iowa Railway, which was an electric line that ran from Centerville to Moravia, and also had a line to Albia till 1948. Also known as the Centerville Light & Traction Co, then Centerville,
Albia & Southern Ry. the lines were acquired by Iowa Southern Utilities and in 1941 became known as the Southern Iowa Ry, owned and operated by the Utility company, which was a large user of coal. Most likely the photo was taken at a utility coal pile in the
Centerville or Albia area. The coal pile area is not served by the electric line, so could be a Q served industry adjacent to the juice line.
Doug Harding
www.iowacentralrr.org
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Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 8:47 AM
To: CB&Q Group
Subject: [CBQ] Aluminum Side Hopper [2 Attachments]
[Attachment(s) from Hol Wagner included below]
Interesting negative currently for sale on ebay (image attached) showing Q twin hopper 190854 which received aluminum side and end panels experimentally at Havelock in August 1944. The seller says the image for sale was taken in Iowa in 1947, and it is clearly
at an industrial property, with overhead trolley lines visible beside the track. Any ideas where this might be? One notable change in the lettering on the car since the builder's photo (also attached): It is now stenciled "FOR USE ON BURLINGTON LINES ONLY
IN COMPANY COAL SERVICE." And yet it is apparently in revenue coal service in this photo.
Hol
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