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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:46:32 +1200
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Sorry to drag this out further but I’ve been checking another roster and this shows that the “275” built in 1882 was originally numbered 604 and then renumbered to 1604 in 1898, before becoming 275 in 1904. Its disposal was not known but it was off the roster by 1914.

That being the case, the only pre-1900 CB&Q 275 I can find would be the ex B&MR (Iowa) built by Manchester in 1870 with construction number 236. The CB&Q had 186 engines in June 1875 (immediately before the take over) and 305 afterwards, so this would be the first 275 on the roster. With the 18 year life expectancy for engines, this would (in theory) date the tintype photo to before 1888.


Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ


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Sent: 12 September 2016 13:53
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Digging a bit further, I find that there is an earlier 275, listed as having been built by Manchester for the B&MR (doesn’t specify whether Iowa or Nebraska) in 1870 as Osceola #42 (0-4-0). It is shown as having been sold to CB&Q in 1875 becoming #275. As 1875 is when the B&MR (Iowa) deeded all its property and equipment to the CB&Q, this would explain why a 5 year old loco was “sold” and how CB&Q acquired it. I believe that the “B&MR” roster I have is for the Nebraska company which is why there is no mention of this engine.

So, I think the 1870 Manchester engine numbered 275 could be the one in the photo which would agree with the “ancient” appearance and yet keep the number.

B&MR Iowa – 1857 to 1875
B&MR Nebraska – 1870 to 1880, although its equipment kept its initials and numbers until the 1904 renumbering.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ



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