Re: [CBQ] Confusing Train Order

["'John D. Mitchell, Jr.' cbqrr47@yahoo.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

I have one suggestion: 1927 was a coal miner's strike year and the strikes in those days lasted all summer. There may have been a coal shortage. I know the MOP moved oil burners to the Illinois Division in coal strike years.

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From: "LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Confusing Train Order

 

September 7, 2016

 

Hol - My first thought was may be the locomotive was Class B-1 No. 7018 built in 1925, but the more I look at the handwriting I think the first number is a "5."   That would lead us back to the oil-burning Class 0-1 No. 5018. Perhaps, an answer lies in that while 5018 was assigned at the time to Sterling, CO, as we all know, locomotives did "roam" between their scheduled ICC inspections. Could've 5018 have been converted back to burn coal at the time the train order was written? From other past threads, we know that some locomotives were converted back and forth from coal to oil to coal depending upon the availability of inexpensive fuel. I think what we have here is a coal burning 5018 roaming far from her home terminal. Does any one have an image of 5018 to share? I do not. Best Regards - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL   coal

 

In a message dated 9/2/2016 11:46:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:

Comparing the 3 and the 8, the unknown number more closely resembles the number 5 than the way the other two numbers are written. As you mention though, what and why would an oil burner assigned to Sterling be doing there ? All this doesn't help and adds to the mystery.

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Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 9:35 AM

Subject: [CBQ] Confusing Train Order [1 Attachment]

 

Help!  The attached 1927 train order is for sale on eBay, and I can't figure out what locomotive it refers to.  It's issued to the conductor and engineer of No. 3, the all stops passenger local across Missouri and down to Kansas City from Cameron Jct.  It was issued at Lathrop to set up a meet at Holt, both of which are on the Cameron Jct.-to-Kansas City segment.  It reads, "No. 3 meet Second 70 [?] Eng. ?018 at Holt."

I'm not sure the freight referred to is second 70, as the first number does not match the 7 is the date above, and it could be a 2, though it doesn't match any other 2s on the order.  But the really problematic thing is the engine number, the first numeral of which looks like either a 3 or possibly a 5.  The Q had no locomotive number 3018, and the 5018 was an oil-burning O-1 Mikado assigned to the Sterling Division on Lines West in July 1927.  Anybody got any ideas?

Hol

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