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Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 18:38:27 -0400
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There were some interesting operations out of Red Oak and the roundhouse was involved as a real part of them.

There were railroad operations in 4 directions out of Red Oak..N S E W.  

See Steve Holdings piece in BB ??    There was a local which originated at Creston with a steam engine..He ran to Red Oak...Ran down to the RH in the lower yard..Took a 44 tonner and went up the branch to Griswold.  Upon return to Red Oak he took the turned steam engine and returned to Creston.  This run was called the "north branch".

On the South Branch  (to Hamburg, IA) there were other unique operations which involved to round trips..One all the way to Hamburg to connect with trains on the Omaha KC line.  Another would run down to Shenandoah and spent several hours doing the switching at the various "Seed Houses"..Earl May,  Henry Field and a couple of others.  

These operations south of Red Oak would take baggage cars of Nursery Stock during season  (Feb-April) from Shenandoah to Hamburg..but them on the siding which was equipped with stand by steam for the baggage cars..This was required since the nursery stock had to be protected from freezing.  These normally moved on the rear end of Train 26.  Saild train would just back onto these cars on the southward siding at Hamburg and run behind the coaches.

Nursery stock going north or east would move up the branch to Red Oak and be placed on the rear end of passenger trains like No. 8 and 14.  

There is a classic Corbin photo of a K4 engine making a run up the hill to the mainline with a train of nursery stock.  I think it made the BRHS calendar a time or two.  

Steve Holding covered the branch line operations east and west of Red Oak in his BB article...about No.23-25 under the title  "OS Creston"..one of my all time favorites.  Sorry Leo....Yours had more work, but Steve's had more drama.

Pete


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From: LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 25, 2016 3:22 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Another Mystery Roundhouse

 
July 25, 2016
 
Hol/Pete - So, the image is indeed the roundhouse at Red Oak, IA, but on Lines East, not West. A neat little five stall wood roundhouse for a branch line terminal. Hol, thank you for ID'ing. Best Regards - Louis 
 
In a message dated 7/25/2016 3:06:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
[Attachment(s) from Hol Wagner included below]

Pete, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.  I'm attaching a scan of a rather dark color slide Bernard Corbin shot of the roundhouse in the mid-1950s.  I've lightened it was much as I can without completely losing the exhaust jacks.  As you can see, all the details match the photo Louis posted, down to the number six on the mechanism above the turntable's Armstrong lever, the electric light between the third and fourth doors and the ladder attached to the right (north) side.  In the slide, the area doesn't look so rural, as houses are visible at the right.

Hol



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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Another Mystery Roundhouse
 
 
July 25, 2016
 
Pete - OK, thanks. Not Red Oak. May be some one else will recognize this roundhouse. Best Regards - Louis
 
In a message dated 7/25/2016 11:52:25 A.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:


It is not Red Oak..Too rural.  Looking at the RO RH from in front you would see a "downtown" aspect.

If it's some other RR I am "out of the running" as far as ID'ing the location.

Pete


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Sent: Mon, Jul 25, 2016 11:48 am
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Another Mystery Roundhouse

 
July 25, 2016
 
Pete - What about Red Oak, IA?
 
If not, then maybe this roundhouse, too, is C&NW/Omaha Road like the other one turned out to be. It does look a little "run down" to be Q. 
 
Best Regards - Louis
 
In a message dated 7/25/2016 11:44:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:


It doesn't look like a B&MR RH since those, IIRC had a higher sloped roof...The scene behind the RH looks like a depot in the background.  I'll take a wild guess and say St. Francis or Oberlin KS. If this is the case the view looks toward the northeast. 

After my recent move I'm in the process of re organizing my books and magazines...it's even slower than it should be since I find that I "have to" stop and read everything..Amongst my "stuff" are Holck's and Kistler's books, both of which discuss these Orleans NE branches into Kansas..Maybe I'll get an "AH HA" moment.  

Should that happen I'll let you guys be the first to know.....Of course there is a possibility that this may be a "Non Q" RH as in the case of the previous mystery RH.  I will say it doesn't look like any other Q RH  that I have seen.  

Disclaimer...As distressing as it may seem...I must say that I HAVE NOT seen every Q RH...which takes me out of the "Expert" category...however any previous membership[ in said category which might have been claimed or assumed is QUITE TENUOUS.

Pete


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Subject: [CBQ] Another Mystery Roundhouse [1 Attachment]

 
[Attachment(s) from LZadnichek@aol.com included below]
July 25, 2016
 
Group - Hot on the heels of Hol's mystery roundhouse, I've inserted/attached an image of another unidentified roundhouse that I think could be Q and, perhaps, was somewhere in Nebraska:
 
 
The wood roundhouse has five stalls and rectangular smoke jacks. It looks like the stall at far left has its smoke jack in the rear, but the stall next to it has smoke jacks at both front and rear. The turntable bridge is "arm strong" powered and its pit is stone lined. The roundhouse color might be a faded mineral red.  
 
The dilapidated roundhouse looks unused in the image, but there appears to be a pile of kindling wood on the left side used to light-off the coal in steam locomotive fireboxes. If Q, this roundhouse is most likely at the junction of several branch lines. Just the right size for Class H, K, R and P locomotives.
 
Can any Lines Westerner confirm that this was a Q roundhouse and if so where it was located? Looks like it would make a nice modeling project. Best Regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL      
 


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